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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:35pm

Stephanie86

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:35pm

Niki74 wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:41pm:
So is that payment for just self employed or all adults? Seems harder to work self employed there :-(

This is what I tried to tell you in my earlier post. Should you be fortunate enough to obtain a job with an a’official’ contract, then all social contribution charges would e paid by your employer; this being one reason why fully employed positions are difficult to obtain. These contributions have to be made essentially by yourself if you are legally ‘self-employed’ - autonomo. Plus of course, as has been stated earlier, all the IVA - VAT - returns etc.

If you are under retirement age and thus not in possession of document S1 which basically entitles one to use the Spanish health service - but which also removes you from the right to the UK NHS as the payments are made to the Spanish authorities to cover your medical care - then you must take out a fully comprehensive private health insurance for all members of your family to comply with residencia requirements. The S1 is applicable to retired U.K. pensioners.

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:00pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:00pm

Web Designer Guy wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:35pm:
I believe that particular payment is for self-employed. I suspect/believe there are other payments "regular" residents will be needing to make. Not least for healthcare. I don't fully understand how it works with healthcare and Uk residents in Spain pre/post Brexit, I've never looked into it as i...

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...t won't affect me. Others will be better placed to advice on that one, and of course, you can read Jims guides.
I think a lot think moving to Spain is easy: Rock up, rent a house, live. But there is far more to it. Even with the UK in the EU there is more to it than that. My understanding is that while you have(had) freedom of movement you don't have freedom of residence. Or at least the ability to just rock up in a country and stay there permanently no questions asked. You still need to fill forms, apply for fo residency, etc. Unless you do what many do which stay illegally.
I think I read somewhere that there is something like 500k illegal brits in Spain. Some I've read have even bought houses, although I've no idea how that works. I'm obviously not condoning such a step. But then it's not for me to condem it either.

"I don't fully understand how it works with healthcare and Uk residents in Spain pre/post Brexit, I've never looked into it as it won't affect me"

If you're under retirement age you will need Private Health insurance. Not sure if you understood that and apologies in advance if I misinterpreted your statement!

Steve

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:10pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:10pm

Apologies to all, I made a mistake in earlier post re rights to S1 document, which has now been edited and corrected. I implied that it was available to those under retirement age which is of course, inaccurate.

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:12pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:12pm

Web Designer Guy wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:35pm:
I believe that particular payment is for self-employed. I suspect/believe there are other payments "regular" residents will be needing to make. Not least for healthcare. I don't fully understand how it works with healthcare and Uk residents in Spain pre/post Brexit, I've never looked into it as i...

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...t won't affect me. Others will be better placed to advice on that one, and of course, you can read Jims guides.
I think a lot think moving to Spain is easy: Rock up, rent a house, live. But there is far more to it. Even with the UK in the EU there is more to it than that. My understanding is that while you have(had) freedom of movement you don't have freedom of residence. Or at least the ability to just rock up in a country and stay there permanently no questions asked. You still need to fill forms, apply for fo residency, etc. Unless you do what many do which stay illegally.
I think I read somewhere that there is something like 500k illegal brits in Spain. Some I've read have even bought houses, although I've no idea how that works. I'm obviously not condoning such a step. But then it's not for me to condem it either.

Illegal residency should be condemned , legal residents ( some pay taxes towards country running ) basically bear the burden of the illegals - a reason also never to pay cash :-)

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:21pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:21pm

Stephanie86 wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:10pm:
Apologies to all, I made a mistake in earlier post re rights to S1 document, which has now been edited and corrected. I implied that it was available to those under retirement age which is of course, inaccurate.

Hi Stephanie,

An S1 could be available to someone under State Retirement Age, if they have an Exportable Benefit - so you weren't wrong ;o) There's no suggestion that this is applicable to the OP, but for completeness and for others reading this, I thought I'd add it.

Kind regards,

Kim

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:29pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:29pm

Hi Kim, thank you, you are as always completely correct. But in this instance, the basic principle may be more relevant to the OP perhaps?

Kr

Ste

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:59pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:59pm

Dinnerout, I'd be self employed, so paying monthly, so get local healthcare. That's what I meant by not looked further.

Ian, each to their own. I prefer not to pass judgement so as I say, I've no opinion on illegals one way or another.

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:10pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:10pm

Web Designer Guy wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:59pm:
Dinnerout, I'd be self employed, so paying monthly, so get local healthcare. That's what I meant by not looked further.
Ian, each to their own. I prefer not to pass judgement so as I say, I've no opinion on illegals one way or another.

Thanks for the clarification.

I also detest illegals. They're often the right wing types that complain about illegal immigrants to the UK who don't contribute to the economy.

Kick 'em out !! 😁

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:02pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:02pm

dinnerout wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:10pm:
Thanks for the clarification.
I also detest illegals. They're often the right wing types that complain about illegal immigrants to the UK who don't contribute to the economy.

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Kick 'em out !! 😁

"often the right wing types"

Now that´s a new slant on it´, dinner?

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:19pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:19pm

Villas wrote on Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:02pm:
"often the right wing types"
Now that´s a new slant on it´, dinner?

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Certainly my experience from time to time mixing with a certain type of ex pat. I tend to avoid them but sometimes in this small village with only seven bars it's not that easy.

Steve