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Jeff22

Posted: Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:23pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:23pm

Lancelot wrote on Tue Jun 2, 2020 11:16am:

This is very poignant given the false testimony of so many of the Cumming's witnesses - who have since admitted to doctoring their GPS software or making things up for a joke.

Thankfully those who can have ignored this fake news for what it is.

I agree with you Lancelot. There are always malicious ill-informed trolls who fire off accusation or jump on the bandwagon to provide us with their false claims which can taint the real evidence presented. I on the other hand prefer to examine checked and confirmed evidence before formulating an opinion, in this case my opinion is based on the evidence DC provided himself.

My opinions on this forum item has been to make light of the farcical situation of a very senior advisor to the Prime Minster demonstrating hypocrisy.


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Posted: Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:41pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:41pm

It's okay to read things differently. 👍

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 10:20am

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 10:20am

By standards what Dominic Cummings did 'this time around' was pretty minor.

1. He came up with the 'infamous' red Brexit bus, save £350 million a week. A lie.

This has currently cost the UK Economy £130 billion, with a projected figure of £200 billion, before Covid. UK Economists have already stated that the UK Economy is 3% behind where it would have been in left alone in 2016. 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/how-much-has-brexit-cost-the-uk_uk_5e303703c5b6ce51a4ebc7d8?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABbMzC8i4XWT_r3RH2fKrnVhzAeww5iXAYASktZikHyWqpSkwFfSmQrvscSoYPV970gcnwmjO6PDlG54M-esNnSpskjN1dJsZEhLTKlbU2GQSWXPTX2lccQX7pTej8Rrz4Hb7zQ6jHEocJOhcbEN2TS1ydOuX9oZ_CyKw9oo8Mn3

Government advisor or specialist manipulator?

2. Ever the clever 'master manipulator' which is his speciality - he worked with data-mining companies to deliberately find the 1/3rd of the population which were either uninterested or 'swing voters' and then using highly effective targeted online marketing - facebook etc - created no end of marketing stories to convince those swing voters that Brexit was the way forwards. To be fair, as a business strategy this had not been tried before and was clever (and immoral) - but let's remember this is not about business, it's about the people knowing the truths behind the impact of the Brexit and for people to vote based on facts, of which, there appeared to be none. Manipulation of the public to further your own agenda.

As we know now the likes of Facebook accepts vast sums of money from political advertising and to hell with the truth of the content being published, which is one of the current issues they are in arguments with after publishing continual mistruths spouted by Donald Trump, without pulling them or fact-checking.

Summary - DC is a considerable part of the Brexit, who manipulated the public into voting what their agenda was, by various forms of targeted manipulation and more to the point - much of it lies or misinformation which was never kept in check. But his end goal was to achieve the Brexit, which he did - damned be it to the facts and truth.

He is a bright guy and employed for his ability to manipulate people and perceptions strategically, which is possibly one reason he won't be let go - he's damn good at giving the advice to misinform people on behalf of the government.

A great example of why many people have so little faith in politicians - this guy shouldn't even have a job. No morality compass. 

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:46pm

All about Cummings nothing about the 7 labour MPs out for a shag. Try to get some balance. 

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:54pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:54pm

Tony810 wrote on Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:46pm:

All about Cummings nothing about the 7 labour MPs out for a shag. Try to get some balance. 

Good point. Name and shame all MPs who have breached the rules with details and outcomes

PeteinAberdare

Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:52pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:52pm

Tony810 wrote on Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:46pm:

All about Cummings nothing about the 7 labour MPs out for a shag. Try to get some balance. 

Did you miss the resignation of Rosie Duffield?

Pete.

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 5:57pm

I always find it amusing, to hear the Bojo supporters trying to defend the indefensible, fake news, the media are biased, the Labour Party are worse, the public (making up stories .... re visits to check eye sight) .... never ever thinking that the Tory Party could tell lies ...... then when all the Targets get missed eg. A world class track and trace by 1st June Missed !! 100,000 even 200,000 tests .... no chance !! When the opposition tackle him in PMQs he sulks saying we should all pull together ........... how about you and you puppeteer start telling the truth !!

Jeff22

Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 6:59pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 6:59pm

Jeff22 wrote on Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:54pm:

Good point. Name and shame all MPs who have breached the rules with details and outcomes

I have only been able to find 2 Labour MP’s where it was confirmed they had breached the lockdown and both accepted they had done wrong with one resignation from the front bench. 

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Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2020 7:03pm

Life is too important to waste all this time bitching about what soon became irrelevant, move on.

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