I cannot believe previous comments about Brits from Brits what is going on here? I am a proud second home owner for I6 years,love the Spanish people,culture and try and speak Spanish and am not a Brexiteer!All our neighbours are Spanish . There are many like me I am am sure who are really looking forward to getting back to our house and seeing our friends.Please do not stereotype with views based on media reporting with their usual spin. I might add that it has been medically proven that the UK was infected by Spanish ,Italian and French strains of the virus! We have all been through this Pandemic and indeed are still going through it. We must all work together and recover to normality and stay safe.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:47am
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:32am
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Hi Scottg,
I understand your anger, but I don't think Buzzby or Mary were directing their comments at all British, just the "morons and cretins" who, unfortunately, are not a fabrication of the media. No-one needs to read tabloid spin, when a picture speaks a thousand words.
I agree that it's not helpful for nations to 'blame' each other and suggesting that Britain's "strain" of Covid-19 came from Spain, France and Italy is another example of that - Covid-19 came from China and, in my opinion, the world should be pulling together to hold China to account. As for counting infections and deaths in "all settings", I would suggest that Belgium's figures are probably the nearest to accurate, as they are the only European country which has been counting in all settings from the beginning. Social care settings have not been counted accurately in many countries: France didn't start counting Care Home deaths until 3 April, Spain started on 10 April and the UK didn't start to include them until 23 April.
Like yourself, there are many other holiday home owners on this forum who are sensible, responsible people; some have said that if Spain had mandated a 14 day quarantine for foreigners arriving here, they would happily stay in their Spanish homes for a 14 day holiday. Although I live in Spain, I have family and property in the UK that I would like to visit, and I, too, would have to comply with the UK'S quarantine period. But, actually, you and the many others desperate to get to Spain are much braver than me - the last place I want to be is on a plane! 😷
I hope you're able to get over here as soon as you want to; in the meantime, stay safe.
Best wishes,
Kim
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:54am
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Kimmy11 wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:32am:
Hi Scottg,
I understand your anger, but I don't think Buzzby or Mary were directing their comments at all British, just the "morons and cretins" who, unfortunately, are not a fabrication of the media. No-one needs to read tabloid spin, when a picture speaks a thousand words.
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I agree that it's not helpful for nations to 'blame' each other and suggesting that Britain's "strain" of Covid-19 came from Spain, France and Italy is another example of that - Covid-19 came from China and, in my opinion, the world should be pulling together to hold China to account. As for counting infections and deaths in "all settings", I would suggest that Belgium's figures are probably the nearest to accurate, as they are the only European country which has been counting in all settings from the beginning. Social care settings have not been counted accurately in many countries: France didn't start counting Care Home deaths until 3 April, Spain started on 10 April and the UK didn't start to include them until 23 April.
Like yourself, there are many other holiday home owners on this forum who are sensible, responsible people; some have said that if Spain had mandated a 14 day quarantine for foreigners arriving here, they would happily stay in their Spanish homes for a 14 day holiday. Although I live in Spain, I have family and property in the UK that I would like to visit, and I, too, would have to comply with the UK'S quarantine period. But, actually, you and the many others desperate to get to Spain are much braver than me - the last place I want to be is on a plane! 😷
I hope you're able to get over here as soon as you want to; in the meantime, stay safe.
Best wishes,
Kim
Thank you Kim for your positive reply and let us all hope we get through this together,you also stay safe.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:11pm
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buzzby27 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:50pm:
The problema is the morons and the cretins want the cake and the cherry and the cream as if they are entitled to it - for what reason now? The manufacturing industry is shattered, agriculture will be shattered, fisheries contribute nothing to GDP, so they rely on the service industry ! Army...
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..., navy air force desimated - no more gun boat diplomacy anymore I am afraid. Government overrun by greedy, incompetent , chancers looking to bleed the dying trough. UK plc you will be bankrupt because you sold out your local citizens 😪
Absolutely , and these are the same people running the coronavirus ( plan?) I mean the moronic public, the even more moronic government has returned to stage one herding, all these illiterates are proudly being herded. Went in Morrisons today no social distancing no masks and over crowding, cows waiting to be euthanised (painfully without a gun)
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MaryM wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:11pm:
Absolutely , and these are the same people running the coronavirus ( plan?) I mean the moronic public, the even more moronic government has returned to stage one herding, all these illiterates are proudly being herded. Went in Morrisons today no social distancing no masks and over crowding, cows ...
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...waiting to be euthanised (painfully without a gun)
You reap what you sow ! I am getting so tired trying to explain anything to people anymore. They ignore science, they ignore doctors, they ignore expert opinion based on empirical data and scholarly achievements on almost all levels - economic, environmental, philosophical, artistic, etc etc etc.
Google is king in there tiny minds and holds all the answers to solving everything from cooking a perfect boiled egg to curing cancer and solving world hunger !!! Not 😢😯
Bien suerte amigos,
Hasta leugo
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:23pm
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buzzby27 wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:09pm:
You reap what you sow ! I am getting so tired trying to explain anything to people anymore. They ignore science, they ignore doctors, they ignore expert opinion based on empirical data and scholarly achievements on almost all levels - economic, environmental, philosophical, ...
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...; artistic, etc etc etc.
Google is king in there tiny minds and holds all the answers to solving everything from cooking a perfect boiled egg to curing cancer and solving world hunger !!! Not 😢😯
Bien suerte amigos,
Hasta leugo
😴😴😴
I just want to cry who would've thought our once wonderful country would be led by such a moronic government supported by a moronic public, like the Titanic all these fools will be able to sing rule brittannia as our country sinks into 3 world status😡😰😰 I didn't sow this nonsense but still must suffer
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:47pm
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MaryM wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:23pm:
I just want to cry who would've thought our once wonderful country would be led by such a moronic government supported by a moronic public, like the Titanic all these fools will be able to sing rule brittannia as our country sinks into 3 world status😡😰😰 I didn't sow this nonsense but sti...
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...ll must suffer
As soon as i get to Ahe ( French Polynesia ) the better. No idiotic public skool villians making money off the backs of good british people.
If I need to fight a shark I'd rather see it head on in the water and take my chances.
This new breed of conservatism is poisonous, malevolent and have corrupted all races and creeds in its pursuit of power. It will ultimately kill all it infects as covid19 does and will continue to do this coming winter when the plebs have forgotten all the facts 😢😴
Goodnight Vienna,
Natural selection always happens regardless of moron opinions because opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and it won't save you unless you are educated. Nuff said
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:48pm
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buzzby27 wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:09pm:
You reap what you sow ! I am getting so tired trying to explain anything to people anymore. They ignore science, they ignore doctors, they ignore expert opinion based on empirical data and scholarly achievements on almost all levels - economic, environmental, philosophical, ...
Read more...
...; artistic, etc etc etc.
Google is king in there tiny minds and holds all the answers to solving everything from cooking a perfect boiled egg to curing cancer and solving world hunger !!! Not 😢😯
Bien suerte amigos,
Hasta leugo
😴😴😴
Hi Buzzby,
I feel your pain! But how can you expect the whole of the British population to understand how to behave, when the very people who make the rules, break them? Many British people have done exactly what was asked of them, but a minority of selfish fools - your morons and cretins ;o) - are ruining it for everyone else. The shocking part of this is that their behaviour could result not only in their own death, but the deaths of others.
Stay safe,
Kim
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:07pm
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Kimmy11 wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:48pm:
Hi Buzzby,
I feel your pain! But how can you expect the whole of the British population to understand how to behave, when the very people who make the rules, break them? Many British people have done exactly what was asked of them, but a minority of selfish fools - your morons and cretins ;o) - ...
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...are ruining it for everyone else. The shocking part of this is that their behaviour could result not only in their own death, but the deaths of others.
Stay safe,
Kim
Yes Kim you always speak great knowledge. I don't obviously have all the answers but apparently most British people voted this Government in with a stomping majority from regions also in the north of England that would consider voting Tory treason. I suspect many generations of these good northern people are turning in there graves for voting this shower of evil into government - hey let's never underestimate the malevolence of PR , marketing and senior advisors trained by the kgb to manipulate people. Actually it's really easy and continues to dominate every country. What we should be doing as we understand the emerging facts is hold the official to account and act accordingly so that the public don't get so easily manipulated by rich political parties. Also the media need more training and need more regulation and training and paid less money to sell trash and fake news. That might be a start ? Who knows ? Island life for me because I am losing hope
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:19pm
Scottgsenior1 wrote on Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:38am:
What a totally inaccurate account of the UK response to C19 and British behaviour in lockdown here(now in week 13!).Sorry but you believe all you read in the media. The majority of us have complied with lockdown,wear masks and gloves when shopping for essentials etc.Devon has had to be lowest lev...
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...el of infection,deaths anywhere.We love Spain and Spanish people so the last thing we want to do is infect them,ourselves,anybody.We need to get back to our house we have owned for 16 years but want to travel safely and comply will all the rules.Both the UK and Spain need each other,both economies are in their knees! Oh we are track and tracing in huge numbers and testing many more people than Spain and in fact any other country. I also believe our death figured are at the most honest in the world as and we count ALL settings, does Spain?Anyway you take care all will be ok.
Well said why are we all being treated the same. We also have just purchased a property there and very disappointed on the views of the Brits. My family and everyone I know has lived by the rules not seen some of our families for months. We hope to come soon and yes we will abide by Spanish rules and consider other people.😮
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