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Residency

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:59pm
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Dixiedean66

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Hello allšŸ˜Š can anyone explain what the criteria is now regarding British people wanting to gain residency in Spain, I've heard so many opinions and just need to know the legalities one would have to go through,. Many thanks in advance MichaelšŸ‘šŸ˜Š

Herefordjack

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:17pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:17pm

Post Brexit, British people need to obtain a visa to live in Spain. What type of visa you apply for depends on how you intend to live when you get here.

In the majority of cases, people want to retire here, in which case you need to apply for a 'non lucrative visa' (NLV) which means you don't intend to work. In that case, you have to prove that you can support yourself financially, with an annual income around ā‚¬28k for an individual or ā‚¬34k for a couple. In addition, unless you qualify for UK state pension and can therefore access the Spanish public health system, you will have to arrange private health insurance.

If you want to work or start a business, there are other visas with a whole different set of criteria to meet.

If you can explain briefly your circumstances, posters here can give you more information.

Dixiedean66

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:49pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:49pm

Herefordjack wrote on Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:17pm:

Post Brexit, British people need to obtain a visa to live in Spain. What type of visa you apply for depends on how you intend to live when you get here.

In the majority of cases, people want to retire here, in which case you need to apply for a 'non lucrative visa' (NLV) which means you don't intend to work. In that case, you have to prove that you can support yourself financially, with an annual income around ā‚¬28k for an individual or ā‚¬34k f...

...or a couple. In addition, unless you qualify for UK state pension and can therefore access the Spanish public health system, you will have to arrange private health insurance.

If you want to work or start a business, there are other visas with a whole different set of criteria to meet.

If you can explain briefly your circumstances, posters here can give you more information.

Hello šŸ˜Š yes I have some friends who want to retire here, they are in receipt of state pension, and have around Ā£25,000 in savings, so can support themselves and apply for S1 form for national health,

Regards Michael.

Herefordjack

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:31pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:31pm

Dixiedean66 wrote on Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:49pm:

Hello šŸ˜Š yes I have some friends who want to retire here, they are in receipt of state pension, and have around Ā£25,000 in savings, so can support themselves and apply for S1 form for national health,

Regards Michael.

You need to understand the difference between savings and income. Ā£25k in savings will generate about Ā£750 worth of interest per annum at today's interest rates, i.e. ā‚¬850 of income per annum. Where's the other ā‚¬27,150 per annum going to come from? Pensions? Share dividends? Where? This is what you will be asked. I am on a relatively high UK state pension at the moment and it comes to around ā‚¬14k per annum. That would leave me ā‚¬14k short if I was applying now.

There is some trade off between savings in the bank and income requirements, but these seem to be up to the individual assessment officer. For example, if you could only show ā‚¬25k of steady income per annum but had, say, Ā£250k in the bank, there might be some leeway. I don't think Ā£25k would cut it.

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:50pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:50pm

I agree with the other posters.

To retire to Spain and live here permanently you will need to apply for the non lucrative visa. You can apply for the visa from the Spanish consulate in London, Manchester or Edinburgh. 

To qualify for the visa you would need to prove an annual income of ā‚¬28,800 for the first person and ā‚¬7,200 for each additional family member. So a couple would need ā‚¬36,000 of rock solid income from pensions etc, etc. Some regions (as stated) might take into account savings but that is not necessarily guaranteed. Income has to be proven again at years 2 and 4 to renew the visa.

You are correct about the S1 cover for healthcare. 

If you gain the NLV you will have 90 days to apply for residency otherwise your NLV will become void.

Steve 

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Dixiedean66

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:16pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:16pm

Herefordjack wrote on Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:31pm:

You need to understand the difference between savings and income. Ā£25k in savings will generate about Ā£750 worth of interest per annum at today's interest rates, i.e. ā‚¬850 of income per annum. Where's the other ā‚¬27,150 per annum going to come from? Pensions? Share dividends? Where? This is ...

...what you will be asked. I am on a relatively high UK state pension at the moment and it comes to around ā‚¬14k per annum. That would leave me ā‚¬14k short if I was applying now.

There is some trade off between savings in the bank and income requirements, but these seem to be up to the individual assessment officer. For example, if you could only show ā‚¬25k of steady income per annum but had, say, Ā£250k in the bank, there might be some leeway. I don't think Ā£25k would cut it.

Thank you so much for the information,I will relay this to my relatives. Regards Michael.

lawson

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:03am

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:03am

Herefordjack wrote on Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:31pm:

You need to understand the difference between savings and income. Ā£25k in savings will generate about Ā£750 worth of interest per annum at today's interest rates, i.e. ā‚¬850 of income per annum. Where's the other ā‚¬27,150 per annum going to come from? Pensions? Share dividends? Where? This is ...

...what you will be asked. I am on a relatively high UK state pension at the moment and it comes to around ā‚¬14k per annum. That would leave me ā‚¬14k short if I was applying now.

There is some trade off between savings in the bank and income requirements, but these seem to be up to the individual assessment officer. For example, if you could only show ā‚¬25k of steady income per annum but had, say, Ā£250k in the bank, there might be some leeway. I don't think Ā£25k would cut it.

Does this apply even if you own your house? Or just to those renting? Susan

harvest

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:27pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:27pm

lawson wrote on Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:03am:

Does this apply even if you own your house? Or just to those renting? Susan

It will apply to both, its about having sufficient income for day to day living whether you are an owner or renter. Spainā€™s requirements are particularly high compared to some other countries such as Portugal.

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:52pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:52pm

harvest wrote on Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:27pm:

It will apply to both, its about having sufficient income for day to day living whether you are an owner or renter. Spainā€™s requirements are particularly high compared to some other countries such as Portugal.

It certainly is. Itā€™s enough to put people off coming. Weā€™ve had a House here for 20 years and now come for 90 days in 180. I do feel sorry for people trying to get residency. Susan

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:27pm

B 4 brexit it it was doable but they did not care about people like you and me.but you can still make it work.people are down grading property in uk  and i.v also heard some people living on boats and caravans in uk i live in spain 6 months a year and make it work,i have the best of both worlds now.it broke my heart initially but you have to remain positive   life is short, best of look.

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