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What a strange web we weave

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:05pm
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John 52

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 Boris Johnson to cabinet we must get the economy moving ,Pritti Patel ,I have a plan we will put anyone entering UK into quarantine for 14 days ,get the  posters printed come to UK and spend 14 days in a hotel or guest house ,also if you want a holiday this year take 4 weeks off to go on a 2 week holiday ,is it just  me that doesn't get it

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 7:51am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 7:51am

What is it you don't get? I'm no expert but happy to attempt to explain things if I can.

John 52

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:12am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:12am

Web Designer Guy wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 7:51am:

What is it you don't get? I'm no expert but happy to attempt to explain things if I can.

What I dont get is for a government that says it wants to get the economy  moving and says it is trying to save jobs this is a contradiction, this will cost jobs and cost travel companies to go bust ,why dont.they test people as they enter the country

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:29am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:29am

As I am new to Spain and the way the Spanish government operates, also not speaking the language I can not give a opinion on the rights and wrongs in Spain, but born and bred, living and working in England, it’s just another parliament that does not seem to know what it is doing, total chaos, so if you live in Spain follow the rules, if you live in the UK do as you please. Stay safe and healthy everyone.

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:37am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:37am

Because there is no instant test. Plus, and I may be wrong on this, but I believe this is the case, that you can still be a carrier of the virus but test negative. But mostly, because there isn't an instant test. Even if there was, how would it work? 

Again, I'm not 100% on this, but the average Easyjet plane has 180 seats. Heathrow has about 1800 planes a day landing. Let's knock that number right back to 300 a day on average per airport. That's 54,000 people a day to be tested in airports. Can you even begin to imagine the infrastructure needed for such an undertaking, not to mention the delays it would cause?

It's neither feasible or even possible to test people coming in. 

Again, I've figures to hand, but the percentage of "business" that requires free-flowing international travel to operate I would guess is tiny, far less than 1% I'd suggest. So, the quarantine restrictions will have a minimal effect on business in general, and people getting back, and so the economy.

My usual caveat: I'm not supporting the decision, or the government, or anything, just trying to give you an answer, but that may well be wrong.

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:43am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:43am

Peter3473 wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 9:29am:

As I am new to Spain and the way the Spanish government operates, also not speaking the language I can not give a opinion on the rights and wrongs in Spain, but born and bred, living and working in England, it’s just another parliament that does not seem to know what it is doing, total chaos, s...

...o if you live in Spain follow the rules, if you live in the UK do as you please. Stay safe and healthy everyone.

so if you live in Spain follow the rules, if you live in the UK do as you please

Strange advice! If Uk citizens do as they please, as in, go out and get on as if everything is normal, the UK is going to get a 2nd wave (which is inevitable anyway). If that happens the chances of being allowed into any country, especially Spain, reduces. 

So really, be great if everyone could stick to the rules, least then we stand a chance of getting back into the country lots of us love (Spain).

Or, be like that twat in the video doing the rounds, who is standing near the beach (not sure where), surrounding by people with zero social-distancing, beer in hand, complaining about the people who are breaking the rules. Seemingly oblivious to the fact he is one of those idiots he's complaining about!

Darwin awards right there!

John 52

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:45am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:45am

Thanks for taking time to reply ,as many countries are beginning  to ease restrictions on travel ,this appears to me to be another example of something that has not been thought out properly ,its a case of better late than never .I'm sure you will agree that the amount of people willing to travel when it's possible will be very little under these restrictions  ,so I can see airlines going bust ,travel companies going bust that leads to redundancies ,they have been trialling heat detection at Heathrow  to tell whether people have the virus ,how reliable this is ,I cant say ,but it shows that organisations are trialling methods to try and get planes flying again

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:49am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:49am

Look on the bright side we can all go to southend beach instead ( if there's any room left ) 😁

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:57am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:57am

Web Designer Guy wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 9:43am:

so if you live in Spain follow the rules, if you live in the UK do as you please

Strange advice! If Uk citizens do as they please, as in, go out and get on as if everything is normal, the UK is going to get a 2nd wave (which is inevitable anyway). If that happens the chances of being allowed into any country, especially Spain, reduces. ...

...

So really, be great if everyone could stick to the rules, least then we stand a chance of getting back into the country lots of us love (Spain).

Or, be like that twat in the video doing the rounds, who is standing near the beach (not sure where), surrounding by people with zero social-distancing, beer in hand, complaining about the people who are breaking the rules. Seemingly oblivious to the fact he is one of those idiots he's complaining about!

Darwin awards right there!

Definitely not advice, but what we have seen, read, either true or false news the British government could not run a p-up in a brewery and I feel a lot safer here in Spain than I would in the UK, and going back to the original post, I don’t get what the UK government are doing or saying, but then again each to their own.

RayD

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:58am

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:58am

It's a cunning plan to get the UK tourist industry up and running again.

Everyone coming in has to book a 2 week stay at a UK hotel so they can quarantine 😀

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