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Barwick19

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 4:30pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 4:30pm

Cookep1 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 4:14pm:

Barwick19 wrote "Stick to your guns Boris, if a settlement can't be reached that is suitable and acceptable to all parties, walk away from the table and bring the £39 Billion back with you"

So you actively encourage law breaking? Says a lot about the strength of your argument doesn't it?

The Withdrawal agreement was agreed by this government receiving Royal Assent on 23rd Jan 2020. They now want to change it illegally as they say it is inconsistent. Is this because:

1. They didn't read it properly?

2. They didn't understand it?

3. They lied when they said it was an "oven ready" deal?

4. They were incompetent?

5. All of the above in order to get the (add your own adjective) to elect them?

What exactly what impact do you think this will have on the UK's reputation when it wants to sign trade agreements with other countries? Who do you think will trust us? 

Oh, and the €39bn (by the way it's less now) is the balance of the UK's legally agreed commitment under the current EU budget cycle. It is NOT a divorce settlement!

Wake up and smell the coffee, we now have a government that will stand up for the UK, that was never going to accept the pathetic deal brokered by Theresa May. The £39 Billion is a EU figure conjured up by Barnier and his entourage.

 You live in Europe, and are quite obviously so pro European that you cannot see thro' the charade of community togetherness. 

I live in the UK and can see first hand the damage that this corrupt union has done to many of our traditional industries.

Crack on Boris.

stedy1

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 5:33pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 5:33pm

Barwick19 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:44pm:

The 'we' I refer to is the EU,  to which 'we' are still fully paid up members.

I live in the UK, and am proud to do so.

Sorry going by your location I thought you lived in Spain .

Cookep1

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:09pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:09pm

Barwick19 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 4:30pm:

Wake up and smell the coffee, we now have a government that will stand up for the UK, that was never going to accept the pathetic deal brokered by Theresa May. The £39 Billion is a EU figure conjured up by Barnier and his entourage.

 You live in Europe, and are quite obviously so pro European that you cannot see thro' the charade of community togetherness. ...

...

I live in the UK and can see first hand the damage that this corrupt union has done to many of our traditional industries.

Crack on Boris.

There's a difference between standing up for something and breaking the law; something you clearly don't understand. And the calculation of the UK commitment is a formula agreed by the UK & EU not something contoured up by anyone. As for Teresa May's deal, if you had taken the trouble to check out Boris's deal you'd know that 95% of it IS Teresa May's deal. The only biy Boris changed was the NI protocol which he's now breaking the law to try and change as a result if his incompetence!

And for the record I'm resident in the UK, I just can't stand deceit and illegality unlike you. As for wake up and smell the coffee, put down your Daily Express/Sun and try researching your comments properly; facts matter and as Boris said today "everyone should abide by the law"; except him of course.

Barwick19

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:55pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:55pm

Cookep1 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:09pm:

There's a difference between standing up for something and breaking the law; something you clearly don't understand. And the calculation of the UK commitment is a formula agreed by the UK & EU not something contoured up by anyone. As for Teresa May's deal, if you had taken the trouble to chec...

...k out Boris's deal you'd know that 95% of it IS Teresa May's deal. The only biy Boris changed was the NI protocol which he's now breaking the law to try and change as a result if his incompetence!

And for the record I'm resident in the UK, I just can't stand deceit and illegality unlike you. As for wake up and smell the coffee, put down your Daily Express/Sun and try researching your comments properly; facts matter and as Boris said today "everyone should abide by the law"; except him of course.

OK Spanish fisherman to flaunt the law is it, OK for French farmers to flaunt the law is it, OK for the construction industry in many EU countries to flaunt the law is it. Or is there a law for Europeans and one for the UK.

dinnerout

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 7:21pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 7:21pm

Barwick19 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:55pm:

OK Spanish fisherman to flaunt the law is it, OK for French farmers to flaunt the law is it, OK for the construction industry in many EU countries to flaunt the law is it. Or is there a law for Europeans and one for the UK.

Boris, 

the man who was sacked from his journalist job for lying

But not before being complicit in having a fellow journalist beaten up

The man who cheated on his wife while she had cancer treatment 

The man who prorogued Parliament to avoid democratic process

The man who takes his policy from a dangerous unelected advisor

The man who sold you an "oven ready deal"

The man who said there would be no border checks in Ireland

The man who when confronted with a picture on a journalists phone, stole the phone

The list goes on and on

He's a buffoon, a liar and incompetent.

As to trust, I wouldn't trust him to hold my watch for 5 minutes.

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Barwick19

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:24pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:24pm

dinnerout wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 7:21pm:

Boris, 

the man who was sacked from his journalist job for lying

But not before being complicit in having a fellow journalist beaten up

The man who cheated on his wife while she had cancer treatment 

The man who prorogued Parliament to avoid democratic process

The man who takes his policy from a dangerous unelected advisor

The man who sold you an "oven ready deal"

The man who said there would be no border checks in Ireland

The man who when confronted with a picture on a journalists phone, stole the phone

The list goes on and on

He's a buffoon, a liar and incompetent.

As to trust, I wouldn't trust him to hold my watch for 5 minutes.

Looks like I have opened a real hornets nest by daring to question these blinkered pedantic  Labour loving Europhiles.

Carry on Boris, your only opposition is a guy that couldn't find enough evidence to prosecute Jimmy Saville.

Barwick19

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:31pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:31pm

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A law that states - A Welsh lamb farmer would be unable to easily sell lamb in Scotland as they can do now. A Scotch whisky producer could lose total access to English barley. And a car built in England would be more expensive to buy in Northern Ireland, and so on, and so on. Some law.

Gemily1

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:32pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:32pm

Cookep1 wrote on Tue Sep 8, 2020 4:54pm:

The withdrawal agreement is a legally binding international treaty. To quote the NI secretary, a government minister! "the proposal does break international law". Does anyone think that breaking international law is either democratic or good thing? Who would want to deal with a country which brea...

...ks international treaties it has agreed?

And as to the involvement of the ECJ, the section of the withdrawl agreement that covers the NI protocol specifically names this as the method of dispute resolution!!

I think we’re jumping to conclusions, has the  government broken any laws yet.?

dinnerout

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:53pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:53pm

Barwick19 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:24pm:

Looks like I have opened a real hornets nest by daring to question these blinkered pedantic  Labour loving Europhiles.

Carry on Boris, your only opposition is a guy that couldn't find enough evidence to prosecute Jimmy Saville.

Jimmy Savile was protected from prosecution by Thatcher first, then the Tory establishment. 

And as to hornets nest, can you say anything I wrote about Boris isn't factual?

Cookep1

Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:03pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:03pm

Barwick19 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2020 6:55pm:

OK Spanish fisherman to flaunt the law is it, OK for French farmers to flaunt the law is it, OK for the construction industry in many EU countries to flaunt the law is it. Or is there a law for Europeans and one for the UK.

Care to offer any evidence or are you just going to keep posting unsubstantiated nonsense? And remember our fishermen sold their quotas. 

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