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Jigsaw1030

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:22am

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:22am

Janice51 wrote on Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:14am:

Sounds like we had the same builders! My bilingual ‘builder’ was recommended to me by English friends, who got the recommendation from a well-known Brit estate agent. Who, by the way, actually laughed when I saw him recently about recommending him!!!

I have had water coming in from a reformed part of my property, damaging items stored there, and although they accepted responsibility, they started to put things right, then disappeared. Nothing new. As I mentioned before, trades here are totally under their wives’ control, get the shopping, a...

...ttend to childcare, do the school run, etc. They do not have time to work, lol.

I swear I have been patient, tried to help the guy running the show, but I have come to the end of my tether. I am now having work done by British people who have shown themselves to be far more professional and capable than any locals. I just want the work finished before I kick the bucket!!!

Let us know how you get on.

Sorry to hear about your experience.  I’m not British and have never had a British builder.  I’ve had Spanish , South American , Russian , Polish and so on.  Always recommend fro. Others and they they feel bad.   Even Spanish people from the north I know with holiday homes in Costa Blanca are shocked by the work ethic or lack of as I have many Spanish neighbours in one of my places and they also have same experiences.  It’s crazy.      Are you referring to sunshine villas. I don’t know many agents here in Sax , just the ones I dealt with on a sales. Sunshine was one and then another. My experience was good.  I can’t blame people who recommend as I have had friends who have builders work for them and then refer to me and then we both got screwed. Then another occasion as well. It’s par for the course.  That’s why no more reform property for me. I don’t even want to have to change a toilet. Haha.     Have a good rest of week and stay away from Jose Vives for any work if you want your money / stress free / and an actual job completed. ;) 

Janice51

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:50am

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:50am

Jigsaw1030 wrote on Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:22am:

Sorry to hear about your experience.  I’m not British and have never had a British builder.  I’ve had Spanish , South American , Russian , Polish and so on.  Always recommend fro. Others and they they feel bad.   Even Spanish people from the north I know with holiday homes...

... in Costa Blanca are shocked by the work ethic or lack of as I have many Spanish neighbours in one of my places and they also have same experiences.  It’s crazy.      Are you referring to sunshine villas. I don’t know many agents here in Sax , just the ones I dealt with on a sales. Sunshine was one and then another. My experience was good.  I can’t blame people who recommend as I have had friends who have builders work for them and then refer to me and then we both got screwed. Then another occasion as well. It’s par for the course.  That’s why no more reform property for me. I don’t even want to have to change a toilet. Haha.     Have a good rest of week and stay away from Jose Vives for any work if you want your money / stress free / and an actual job completed. ;) 

Your plumber must belong to the same club as all the plumbers I have encountered!  

I lived in Sardinia for 40 years and so I am accustomed to high quality work. In fact, we actually have an Italian electrician doing some work for us at the moment. He has been here in Spain for many years but still knows how to finish a job properly!

Had I known, I would have got a team of Italians here to do the work!

I still need a reliable plumber and am still looking! 

I feel the same way about reforming properties. Never again. 

Janice51

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:53am

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:53am

Jigsaw1030 wrote on Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:22am:

Sorry to hear about your experience.  I’m not British and have never had a British builder.  I’ve had Spanish , South American , Russian , Polish and so on.  Always recommend fro. Others and they they feel bad.   Even Spanish people from the north I know with holiday homes...

... in Costa Blanca are shocked by the work ethic or lack of as I have many Spanish neighbours in one of my places and they also have same experiences.  It’s crazy.      Are you referring to sunshine villas. I don’t know many agents here in Sax , just the ones I dealt with on a sales. Sunshine was one and then another. My experience was good.  I can’t blame people who recommend as I have had friends who have builders work for them and then refer to me and then we both got screwed. Then another occasion as well. It’s par for the course.  That’s why no more reform property for me. I don’t even want to have to change a toilet. Haha.     Have a good rest of week and stay away from Jose Vives for any work if you want your money / stress free / and an actual job completed. ;) 

By the way, agencies are very pally, have agreements between them, so you deal with Little Villas, who, along with Little Villas 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6, work for Big Villas. All in cahoots.

Tom1916

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:41pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:41pm

Stephanie86 wrote on Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:02pm:

Although I have nothing but sympathy for people unfortunate enough to have been cheated by others, I find it unfair to tarnish everyone in Spain. We have used both Spanish and English owned firms, for major renovation works, heating repairs etc etc. We have had nothing but excellent service, comp...

...leted on time and efficiently, exactly to the presupuesto. The same applies to any legal dealings we have needed.

There are good and bad in all countries, and for those who seem to deeply dislike and mistrust anything and anybody here, why are you here still?

I fully agree with you Stephanie, this has been my experience also. I have had extensive work carried out in our house in the last two years by a small construction company based in Torrevieja who were totally above reproach, from start to finish they were a pleasure to work with. Your thoughts regarding Ex pats complaining about rampant corruption, I have not experienced any "sleazy dealing" here over the last 21 years, I find they are no worse than some of the cowboys one comes across anywhere on the continent, and yes I am confused as to why they continue to live  here if that is their experience...

Stephanie86

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:54pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:54pm

Tom1916 wrote on Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:41pm:

I fully agree with you Stephanie, this has been my experience also. I have had extensive work carried out in our house in the last two years by a small construction company based in Torrevieja who were totally above reproach, from start to finish they were a pleasure to work with. Your thoughts r...

...egarding Ex pats complaining about rampant corruption, I have not experienced any "sleazy dealing" here over the last 21 years, I find they are no worse than some of the cowboys one comes across anywhere on the continent, and yes I am confused as to why they continue to live  here if that is their experience...

I am pleased that you also have a positive experience, Tom, at least the few of us are not alone! There are poor tradesmen everywhere, this is unfortunately a fact of life, but if people are finding this so oppressive, I reiterate, why are you still here?!

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Jigsaw1030

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:09pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:09pm

Stephanie86 wrote on Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:54pm:

I am pleased that you also have a positive experience, Tom, at least the few of us are not alone! There are poor tradesmen everywhere, this is unfortunately a fact of life, but if people are finding this so oppressive, I reiterate, why are you still here?!

I hired a local professional business to do work and got ripped off.  Why would I leave ?!  This thread is to show / warn others of a business and person locally to stay away from sharing my current ongoing experience of being ripped off and hopefully others won’t fall victim to him.  

Jigsaw1030

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:03pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:03pm

I have just heard from a local business that I reached by out to regarding this man. Who I will not name,  who also has dealings and his clients  with this company and apparently he has ripped off many others recently and left many jobs incomplete and people our of $.   So please be aware.  I can send more info by PM if needed.  

valerie70767

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:00pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:00pm

Jigsaw1030 wrote on Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:20pm:

Because you try to give the benefit of the doubt. They all talk a good game.  When you hire a legit business, you should feel safe and secure. I can tell you in Canada , a legit business would never pulls this crap. Blatantly steal from you the. Ignore you or legal requests.   I live Sp...

...ain and have been here for many many years. Unfortunately it’s a country where between people and even government agencies you get ripped off. I try to neve have to have things done herr, but at times you do and you have 50/50 chance to be scammed or poor quality work done. Even Spanish people from other parts of Spain shake their heads at how work is conducted in this region.  It’s sad and gives people and country a bad name.    Either way. Scum bag thief’s should be posted so others are not also scammed.    Maybe they will stop if the $ stops. 

I’m so saddened to read this thread. That this persons name is being blackened in public, without right to reply is disappointing. He has done work for me without any issues. I happen to know that over the past few months he has had major family problems, all of which have fallen on his shoulders to sort out. I am aware of what these issues are, but it’s not my tale to tell, particularly on a public forum.  I’m not in anyway excusing what’s been happening, just remarking there are at times other sides to a story.  

He may not be the best and could probably have dealt with things in a different manner, but to balance things out, I have had no issues with him or his work. 

Jigsaw1030

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:11pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:11pm

valerie70767 wrote on Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:00pm:

I’m so saddened to read this thread. That this persons name is being blackened in public, without right to reply is disappointing. He has done work for me without any issues. I happen to know that over the past few months he has had major family problems, all of which have fallen on his shoulde...

...rs to sort out. I am aware of what these issues are, but it’s not my tale to tell, particularly on a public forum.  I’m not in anyway excusing what’s been happening, just remarking there are at times other sides to a story.  

He may not be the best and could probably have dealt with things in a different manner, but to balance things out, I have had no issues with him or his work. 

I’m well aware of his family issues and as I stated he did work prior for me. Then decided to take my money, not buy materials, do the job or return the money.  This is months after his family issues. He did another job and completed at that.  


My lawyer reached out to him and he basically told her to F off and take him to court. 





he has taken money from many others and not done work.  The issues you talk about do not warrant theft.  You can message me to see the messages of this great man. 


we all have issues in our lives that are sad … but we don’t all go around taking stealing money from people.   I even to this day ( this am) gave him opportunities to do the work or repay.  He chose to ignore and that is a choice to steal and accept honest  reviews and feedback of this guy. I’m using nice language so as not to be get blocked.   Go ask him how many people he has screwed over recently?  

Janice51

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:01pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:01pm

valerie70767 wrote on Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:00pm:

I’m so saddened to read this thread. That this persons name is being blackened in public, without right to reply is disappointing. He has done work for me without any issues. I happen to know that over the past few months he has had major family problems, all of which have fallen on his shoulde...

...rs to sort out. I am aware of what these issues are, but it’s not my tale to tell, particularly on a public forum.  I’m not in anyway excusing what’s been happening, just remarking there are at times other sides to a story.  

He may not be the best and could probably have dealt with things in a different manner, but to balance things out, I have had no issues with him or his work. 

When I spoke about locals, I didn’t just refer to Spanish people, but anyone living and working in the area. 

My builder also had personal problems which caused serious delays and problems as he wasn’t around to supervise, the actual workers rushed to finish the job with little attention which had resulted in me having serious issues with the building.

I thought we had come to an agreement about putting things right but again, he has personal problems so all work is cancelled. I am left to foot the bill to get others in to try and repair some of the damage. The only reason I haven’t named and shamed him is that he always promises to resolve the situation but in practice, it just costs me more money and delays in me living comfortably in my own house without water pouring down the walls! 

I live in hope.

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