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Wilbur

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:18pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:18pm

craig245t wrote on Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:04pm:

Aah! Maybe it's just our company they want🤣🤣

Spain will notice a definate dip in revenue from the UK when you consider how many retired people used to spend time in Spain above the 90 days in 180. I know it was always the rule anyway but it wasn't enforced. 

The entire world is in recession due to Covid. Spain needs tourism and once things open up then British tourists will flood back, pensioners and all. 

However, it suits Spain to have Brits as third party nationals. Folk will still visit but those who can't retire here as originally planned will sell up and Spain will reap the sales and purchase taxes on homes, that until Brexit, were likely never going to be sold. 

Those Brits coming to stay will have deep pockets and healthy bank accounts and, like the wealthier Russians and Chinese they will be warmly welcomed. 

Finally, those Brits who lived in Spain for years without taking up residency, will now have done so and Spain will reap those new taxes too without losing the economic impact of them going back to Blighty. Double win. 

I do think things will change but not in the short term. I reckon in 5 years or so once Brexit becomes less of a festering wound for many and EU rules relax in the new world order. 

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:32pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:32pm

craig245t wrote on Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:04pm:

Aah! Maybe it's just our company they want🤣🤣

Spain will notice a definate dip in revenue from the UK when you consider how many retired people used to spend time in Spain above the 90 days in 180. I know it was always the rule anyway but it wasn't enforced. 

Hi Craig,

The '90 days in a rolling 180 days' rule didn't apply to UK citizens when we were part of the EU - although the UK was never in Schengen, we didn't have to comply because we had the benefit of EU Freedom of Movement.  But we were subject to Spain's residency laws that required us to register as foreigners living in Spain if we intended to live here more than 90 days - you can see how two entirely different rules were confused! 😄

Kind regards, 

Kim

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:05pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:05pm

Well spotted Handbag1. I’ve signed and shared with friends. I hope others do the same. Thanks again.
Jackie

craig245t

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:13pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:13pm

Just goes to show how you think you know the ins and outs of the Shengen zone....... But you don't 🤔😁

Everyday's a school day👍

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:13am

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:13am

Andyb1208 wrote on Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:33am:

Hi Craig

7.5 thousand to date

We are getting there

KR 

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Hi All,

Just under 9,000 signatures to date.

Getting closer

KR

Andy

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:11pm

Handbag1 wrote on Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:23pm:

I have come across a Petition, that is very important for owners that are not residents. If you know anyone that this affects, then please let them know, so they can sign petition. 

Lobby to negotiate equal visa rights for U.K. citizens with property in EU area

Lobby the government to negotiate equal rights for U.K. citizens with properties in EU countries to those automatically awarded to EU citizens staying in the U.K., ie, 180 days in any 365 days. Not 2 x 90 day blocks as per current Schengen rules.

At the moment the U.K. government has granted EU citizens the right to reside in the U.K. for up to 180 days without a visa. By Schengen rules (which now apply to U.K. citizens as a “third country”) U.K. residents are only permitted to stay in their property in an EU territory for 90 days (including travel days) then leave the Schengen area for another 90 days before they return. In my opinion this was an abdication of the U.K. government’s responsibility to its citizens. Many of whose invested heavily in EU properties & who are now denied the right to use them as they choose.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569365


just signed only 500 to go to make the gov take steps or acknowledge

Irishgigilo

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:51pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:51pm

Hi Handbag1 I fall into this category with a holiday home in Spain . So I will

sign the petition . I clicked on the link you provided but it doesn't action anything .

Regards from Irish gigolo 

GraemeP

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:08pm

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Andyb1208

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:45am

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:45am

Andyb1208 wrote on Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:13am:

Hi All,

Just under 9,000 signatures to date.

Getting closer

KR

Andy

Hi all,

Its over the 10k mark

KR

Andy

Scottgsenior1

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:28pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:28pm

Handbag1 wrote on Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:23pm:

I have come across a Petition, that is very important for owners that are not residents. If you know anyone that this affects, then please let them know, so they can sign petition. 

Lobby to negotiate equal visa rights for U.K. citizens with property in EU area

Lobby the government to negotiate equal rights for U.K. citizens with properties in EU countries to those automatically awarded to EU citizens staying in the U.K., ie, 180 days in any 365 days. Not 2 x 90 day blocks as per current Schengen rules.

At the moment the U.K. government has granted EU citizens the right to reside in the U.K. for up to 180 days without a visa. By Schengen rules (which now apply to U.K. citizens as a “third country”) U.K. residents are only permitted to stay in their property in an EU territory for 90 days (including travel days) then leave the Schengen area for another 90 days before they return. In my opinion this was an abdication of the U.K. government’s responsibility to its citizens. Many of whose invested heavily in EU properties & who are now denied the right to use them as they choose.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569365


Great we are signing asp thank you. Second home owners need much more recognition as we pay our all our Spanish taxes, utilities etc   (and we have for over 16 years).Like so many of us we cannot wait to get back to our house and contribute to the local economy of course, been so long!

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