Track & Trace, which camp would you be in? - Page 4

Cookep1 wrote on Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:06pm:

Hi Gemily1,

No I don't know everything, but I am capable of reading and applying critical thought; give it a try.

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I'm also genuinely concerned about the rights of others, especially the more vunerable in society. So yes I do consider human rights precious as they protect us all, as does GDPR. But I guess if you're alright then why would you care about other peoples rights?

Have a nice evening.

Balmer9 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:59am:

Why anyone would not do everything to assist in the eradication of this awful pandemic is beyond me. Probably the same radical left wing that think we should never have had any restrictions placed on us, and protest in their hundreds about a criminal dying thousands of miles away. 

Gemily1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:48pm:

It really is a shame about human rights, because if we really believed in them the people who got stabbed to death in Reading by an asylum seeker would still be alive today, that’s what happens when you put human rights first, innocents die. 

Cookep1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:09pm:

An interesting post. I have to agree with you on the first part, but feel your ire is misdirected. You may remember it was the UK Government who allowed hundreds of thousands to enter the country leading to 75% of UK Covid-19 infections being imported. It was also the government who delayed lockd...

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...own until 23rd March, leading to an estimated 10,000 unnecessary deaths. 

But I'm not so sure about your other points. In terms of numbers, around 99% of the population have complied with the Government guideline, so who are the "radical left" you believe have been objecting?

And am I right that the "criminal" you refer to as dying is Floyd George? If so I'm sure you know that the police officer who killed him has been charged with murder?

Cookep1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:20pm:

I'm not sure what human rights has to do with a terrorist killing three people in Reading? Or is it because he was an asylum seeker unlike the drunk drive who killed three pedestrians in Cumbria yesterday for which there's been barely a mention?

Gemily1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:29pm:

I’m just wondering what you would have done in the circumstances and of course without the benefit of hindsight. I suppose if the government had closed the country down straight away it may have saved lives, but then the human rights brigade would  be moaning about that. And where did you ...

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...get the figure of 60000 deaths from, for the UK,

By the way can anyone tell me the factual number of unfortunate deaths that have occurred in Spain as a result of covid-19.

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Gemily1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:39pm:

The human rights factored in because the terrorist could have been deported and wasn’t, unfortunately a terrorist is better news for the gutter press than a drunk driver, as is a black criminal who got murdered by a police officer as apposed to a black criminal murdering a black police officer....

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... And you get some of your information from the press good luck to you on that.

Cookep1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:06pm:

If the man was a known terrorist he could have been arrested/detained/deported at any time; ihuman rights has nothing to do with it.

As for the black criminal, Floyd George was suspected of having passed a counterfeit $20 note. He was killed whilst being arrested; never tried, never convicted. The video depicting his death was appalling. ...

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As to a black criminal murdering a black police officer, please enlighten me as I've seen nothing in the press recently? But I would condemn that in exactly the same way; murder is murder.

Gemily1 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:15pm:

He wasn’t deported because of his human rights.

Floyd was killed by the police which of course was wrong, he was a career criminal, and he has convictions for violence pointing a gun at a pregnant woman whilst he and his criminal friends burgled her house, so I have no sympathy for him or any violent criminal....

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Have a look at the news in the USA about the black police officers being killed, it might take a bit of researching because the gutter press won’t report it, it’s not news worthy.

Balmer9 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:59am:

Why anyone would not do everything to assist in the eradication of this awful pandemic is beyond me. Probably the same radical left wing that think we should never have had any restrictions placed on us, and protest in their hundreds about a criminal dying thousands of miles away.