Moving to Spain: what happens if the UK leaves the EU? - Page 9

It is worrying as we are about to take the plunge and move to Spain within the next 12 months, all we can do is hope that Article 50 is triggered with expats etc in mind, our biggest fear is renting our home in the UK & planning to move to spain and the Spanish Govt bringing in a point based system in place or some sort of Visa Program at the last minute.

We both work in the UK and I am lucky enough to continue with the same company when I move to Spain

Fingers Crossed!

I am Scottish and after today and Nicola Sturgeon announcing she is forging ahead with a Scottish Independence Referendum,  I am more worried about this than leaving the EU.  It feels that Scotland will be between the devil and the deep blue sea.  I think if she gets her way and Scottish people follow her like sheep to the slaughter we will be both alienated from the rest of the UK and struggling with her attempt to rejoin the EU.  I think that both EU citizens in Britain and British Citizens in the EU will be much more secure than Scotland will be if there is a vote by Scottish people become independent.

I think you are right, mate

Observing the political games and language that has been thrown about lately, i think it would be wise if ex-pats who would like to stay permanently, learn the language and integrate and think about getting Spanish Citizenship.

I think the E.U are a spiteful bunch and will seek to dictate that Spain makes it as difficult as possible for UK ex-pats.

Just a hunch.

I wouldn't say they are a spiteful bunch, they are only acting according to what UK wanted. I am a Spanish working and living in UK, and I am encountering problems that I never did before Brexit. UK is not making me feel comfortable here. I have a flat in Gran Alacant, and all I can say is if anybody needs any help with Spanish, you can ask, and yes, I recommend you learn Spanish. It is incredible how many British people live in Spain and after many years still don't speak the language. Good luck with your new home 🏠😉

I think once negotiations are concluded regarding the terms of UK exit, most things will settle down and return to normal.

It was always going to be the case that the EU would want to warn off other countries from exit by being able to point to the UK and say "well look what can happen if you leave the club"

As to Spanish integration and language skills, sure, but I don't think the Spanish nation underestimates the contribution that ex pats make to the economy, so I am not expecting to see punitive measures taken against us.

Gibraltar has simply muddied the waters a little. It was to be expected that it might be used in this way, in fact I predicted that it would be. The belligerent comments by Michael Howard, and Boris Johnson's general gung ho approach at the EU are despicable, because they serve to suggest that all Brits feel this way, which of course we don't.

(At the risk of upsetting some, I believe we should negotiate joint sovereignty on Gib, regardless of Spanish interest in their own overseas territories)

Steve

it is true that many British people bought properties in Spain, but it's also true that, due to the pension age of most of them, they don't work an contribute with working tax. By what I could see with many of my British neighbours there, they are worried about their future access to health care, as a result of UK leaving Europe.

anyway, don't worry to much, Spanish people are very open to other cultures and welcoming. I am sure they will do anything posible for British people not to feel unwanted.

About Gibraltar, I prefer to leave it for another discussion 😊

Elsa, I agree to an extent, but in my small circle of friends and contacts since moving here there are several who work and consequently contribute to tax revenues. Also, many British residents do pay into the Spanish tax system.

But you discount the contribution made also in other ways - local taxes IBI, Suma etc, insurances, Health care fees, and lots more - for example even airport taxes for flights, there are many "hidden" contributions to the economy here that the UK ex pat community contribute to.

This is before you consider the impact on shops restaurants and bars, which is considerable So, hopefully the posturing is exactly that, just posturing, and we can get a reciprocal deal that protects EU citizens in the UK and non EU citizens in Spain.

Saludos, Steve

i get the impression that some people think a deal will be between Spain and the UK. It will not. It will be between the EU and the UK. The view of Spain and the Spanish people will be treated as irrelevant by the EU. If an EU cpuntry could make such bilateral deals independently the UK referendum vote would, in my view, have been to remain in.

Please remember that the people of the U.K never agreed or signed up to be part of what the E.U has become, which is a dictatorship. It is a one way street with these people.That is obvious regardless of how you voted. Every country that is part of it has no freedom to act at all as a sovereign nation.

That aside, i hope what ever low IQ minority that is making you feel unwelcome does not put you off our country. Please be sure that It is by no means a reflection of how most of us feel. Yes there is some ill feeling towards foreigners by some people but only towards the ones that come over just to sponge off our overly generous benefit system and then walk around in the street with placards declaring the death of the police etc. If we actually had a competent Government for once (what's that?), we wouldn't have this frustration that exists among people who only see their hard earned taxes being freely given out to people that hate them whilst simultaneously being snubbed when they have a genuine need for help. 

In reality, it's not the immigrants fault that the country gives them free money in preference to their own people.

To go back to the topic at hand. I stand by my original comment in that i can't help but feel that the E.U will shaft us as hard as possible.