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Kimmy11

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:09am

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:09am

Hi Martin,

Property Transfer Tax in the Valencian autonomous region is 10%, then you need to add 3-4% for fees, e.g. lawyer, notary, land registry.  So, realistically, your maximum budget for buying is around €52k.

I've just done a search on www.kyero.com and these are the results:

https://www.kyero.com/en/spain-property-for-sale-0l55529?features%5B%5D=near_shops&features%5B%5D=near_transport&features%5B%5D=garden&max_price=60000&min_beds=2&sort=popularity_desc

Although the search returned 98 properties, the majority are in remote Spanish villages.  I think the only ones that may fit your criteria are 2 in Torrevieja, 2 in La Marina, 1 in Algorfa and 1 in Formentera del Segura. If you look at apartments or properties in a "community"  you need to be aware of annual fees for maintenance of communal areas, including pools.

I think there will be more properties than this available in areas that may be of interest to you, but estate agents have to pay to list property on internet portals and may not believe that's necessary (or affordable) for the less expensive properties.  But Kyero does include the listing agent, so you can check out individual agents' websites that may have other properties that they haven't listed on Kyero.  From what you've said about your requirements, I agree with GrannyRose that Torrevieja is likely to meet all your needs.

One other thing to be aware of, whilst it is possible to get a "bargain", you do need to be aware of Spain's Complementary Tax:

https://www.costablancaforum.com/area/formentera-del-segura-spain-54/taxes-suma-nie-tax-advice-in-formentera-del-segura-25/complementary-tax-little-known-often-misunderstood-and-can-be-expensive-58217/ 

As you start to identify properties that are of interest to you, check back with us, as there may well be people who have good knowledge not just of areas, but specific communities that you're considering.

Happy hunting!

Kind regards, 

Kim

martin ogorman

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:16am

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:16am

Grannyrose wrote on Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:28pm:

Hi Martin,

If you are coming to Spain with your wife and young child, you will require a real home, not a holiday home. By that I mean that you will need storage space, somewhere to gang your washing out, room fir bikes, toys etc., You will want to live in an area where you can settle and make friends for y...

...ears to come. Sadly, €60,000 will not buy you what you need. I don’t wish to burst your bubble but there’s no point in allowing you to think that you can achieve your dream on anything close to this figure. Would you consider renting instead of buying? Are you planning to get employment in Spain and if so, what type of work? You could buy further inland but remember, if you buy and end up deciding to sell up, that will cost you too. I presume you are young as you have a young child, please consider renting until you have found your feet. Once you have established yourselves, you could take a mortgage out and increase your spending power.

You should be able to rent a lovely home as many people buy holiday homes and end up not really using them. Go over for a visit in the autumn, hire a car, arrange to view both rentals and homes for sale. Don’t rush headlong into anything. Allow yourselves time to think.

Houses and buildings in Spain are very cold in the winter as they aren’t built like houses at home. They aren’t insulated , few homes have double glazing, even fewer have fire places and many are open plan which makes it difficult to keep any heat in. You will need a bathroom plus at least a toilet and wash hand basin. check behind curtains for any loose plaster/ paint as lots of houses can be damp as well as cold. 
IMost of the properties are built for summer use but because the weather during the winter months us di good during the day, many of us enjoy getting away from the cold, damp winter of home. By 4.30pm once the sun sets , there isn’t any cloud cover do the cold huts very quickly. Air con is handy as you can heat the place with it but not everyone has it installed, you will need it for intense summer heat and cold nights off season. I could go on forever trying to help you to understand what you must look for. Please take a note book with you with all your requirements. Don’t trust your memory. Look for a south facing home. Ask about flooding in the area. Sometimes the ridiculously low price reflects problems that you don’t need. 

Please take heed of everything I have told you and you will be fine. 

Good hunting!

Hi G/Rose, thanks for persevering with us, you are correct, my wife is young, but unfortunately I am not 😬. We are not looking for a holiday home, we intend this to be a permanent move, having said that we are keeping our home in the UK, just in case.Fortunately we have both lived on other continents so we have a good idea of what to expect. Our problem is finding a suitable property in our price range, we have very few essential requirements.

Within 60 minutes of an airport that serves Birmingham 

Minimum 2 bedrooms 

Good WiFi 

School and hospital/ medical centre 

Preferably some outside space 

With regards to work, I want to work, preferably part time but it is not essential and in the current climate my chances of getting work are, I assume quite slim. That’s ok, more time with my wife and daughter and to learn the language 😳

Regards, Martin O

Grannyrose

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:55am

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:55am

martin ogorman wrote on Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:16am:

Hi G/Rose, thanks for persevering with us, you are correct, my wife is young, but unfortunately I am not 😬. We are not looking for a holiday home, we intend this to be a permanent move, having said that we are keeping our home in the UK, just in case.Fortunately we have both lived on other con...

...tinents so we have a good idea of what to expect. Our problem is finding a suitable property in our price range, we have very few essential requirements.

Within 60 minutes of an airport that serves Birmingham 

Minimum 2 bedrooms 

Good WiFi 

School and hospital/ medical centre 

Preferably some outside space 

With regards to work, I want to work, preferably part time but it is not essential and in the current climate my chances of getting work are, I assume quite slim. That’s ok, more time with my wife and daughter and to learn the language 😳

Regards, Martin O

Good morning Martin,

Have you considered renting your house in the Uk?  By doing this, it will provide you with more than enough to rent a lovely place in Spain. Think about it. You choose the house and agree a long term rent. All being well, you can remain for the duration agreed. At that stage you will know for certain how well Spain suits you as a family and if it matches your dream, then you could consider buying a house by taking a mortgage out and repaying with the rental on your uk home. Or, you could sell up and have the money to pay cash for your new home. 

You now have options. 

You say that you yourself aren’t a “teenager”, then you are well past the stage of making do. You know what you want and deserve so please don’t buy something that is far from what you wish for you and your family. 

Lots of people rent long term. Sometimes I think that my husband and I should sell up and rent.We would save a lot of money and there wouldn’t be a house to clear out if anything happens us in the future. 

Check out the La Mata, Torreblanca, Agua Nueva areas of Torrevieja  and see if you can find any suitable long term rentals. 

Another suggestion. There’s a very nice area inland called Benijofar with numerous beautiful houses and a mix of English and Dutch people. I am led to believe that it is possible to obtain a good long term rental there.!  Everything you need would be on your doorstep there. Your your wife might actually enjoy the company of English speaking people. You could drive to the beach in about 20 minutes or less, it is closer to the airport too.

Take my advice and come over for a good rekkie in the autumn. Car hire will be cheaper, it won’t be too hot, the beach bars remain open until 31/10/20 so you can enjoy relaxing on the beach and sightseeing later on!  This is a wonderful time to visit. 

Please keep asking questions that are important to you and we will all do our best to answer them for you. 

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Janice51

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:52pm

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:52pm

Hello Martin,

I think that most people will agree with me that properties along the coast can be more expensive if they are near the sea. If you go inland you’ll get a larger property with more outside space. Your daughter is young so going to a Spanish school will make her bilingual. This will be a huge boost to her future life. 

I purposely chose a country house and in my immediate area there are a few properties that could fall within your budget, although they need some work on them and I don’t mean just a splash of colour!  Are you up for some renovation work? Everyone on this forum will help you with recommendations for necessary tradesmen. Jim’s Guides will give you info on just about any query you may have. 

My daughter is currently looking for an inexpensive detached country property to renovate and possibly rent and has found some very good opportunities. In Yecla, for example, there are good schools, doctors, a hospital a furniture industry and so on. I have seen a couple of houses just outside Yecla for around €45 to 48,000. 

Then there are bank repossessions which can be inexpensive. There is also a good estate agent working in the area who speaks Spanish, English & Italian. I used Yecla as an example, although it is in Murcia, and just 10 minutes away from my house in the Villena area which is Alicante. You would also pay less transfer tax in Murcia (8% instead of 10% in the Valencia region).  There may also be job possibilities here, depending on your qualifications or skills. 

However it is feasible to get something for your budget but it will either mean a lot of work in the country or it will be a small flat basically in resorts. 

Please feel free to contact me (Private Message on the left of the page under my name) if you need further details. 

Happy hunting and the best of luck! 

Janice

martin ogorman

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:47pm

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:47pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:09am:

Hi Martin,

Property Transfer Tax in the Valencian autonomous region is 10%, then you need to add 3-4% for fees, e.g. lawyer, notary, land registry.  So, realistically, your maximum budget for buying is around €52k.

I've just done a search on www.kyero.com and these are the results:

https://www.kyero.com/en/spain-property-for-sale-0l55529?features%5B%5D=near_shops&features%5B%5D=near_transport&features%5B%5D=garden&max_price=60000&min_beds=2&sort=popularity_desc

Although the search returned 98 properties, the majority are in remote Spanish villages.  I think the only ones that may fit your criteria are 2 in Torrevieja, 2 in La Marina, 1 in Algorfa and 1 in Formentera del Segura. If you look at apartments or properties in a "community"  you need to be aware of annual fees for maintenance of communal areas, including pools.

I think there will be more properties than this available in areas that may be of interest to you, but estate agents have to pay to list property on internet portals and may not believe that's necessary (or affordable) for the less expensive properties.  But Kyero does include the listing agent, so you can check out individual agents' websites that may have other properties that they haven't listed on Kyero.  From what you've said about your requirements, I agree with GrannyRose that Torrevieja is likely to meet all your needs.

One other thing to be aware of, whilst it is possible to get a "bargain", you do need to be aware of Spain's Complementary Tax:

https://www.costablancaforum.com/area/formentera-del-segura-spain-54/taxes-suma-nie-tax-advice-in-formentera-del-segura-25/complementary-tax-little-known-often-misunderstood-and-can-be-expensive-58217/ 

As you start to identify properties that are of interest to you, check back with us, as there may well be people who have good knowledge not just of areas, but specific communities that you're considering.

Happy hunting!

Kind regards, 

Kim

Hi Kimmy11, thanks, haven’t got round to trying Kyero yet, but will do.

Regards, Martin O

Cheryl

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:42pm

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:42pm

Be careful of Complementary Tax if you go the repossession route.

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