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Now that would be really crafty ,talk about bushy tails ,seems to be when you think progress is being made another setback ,on a different note not moving into phase 2 as off Monday we didn't all move into phase 1 as a group ,that was acceptable so why different now ,do appreciate that cities are more difficult for people to keep 2metre rule and problems in bars and restaurants
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:10am
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:13am
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Peter3473 wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 9:57am:
Definitely not advice, but what we have seen, read, either true or false news the British government could not run a p-up in a brewery and I feel a lot safer here in Spain than I would in the UK, and going back to the original post, I don’t get what the UK government are doing or saying, but th...
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...en again each to their own.
I don't disagree with any of that. As I said, I'm not a milisecond supporting the government, just trying to answer the OP.
The UK government have consistently reacted slowly and always seem two steps behind the reality. I'm not sure I'd personally feel any safer anywhere, thankfully where I live there is very little CV.
Quarantine should have been introduced in March not June when there are already over 250,000 cases and if we believe some of the figures being banded about over 60,000 deaths, seems farcical unless Dominic Cummings has a U.K. holiday home he’s trying to let 🤔
I agree, but to be fair, the other European countries including Spain and France are doing the same from June 8th. Question is how long will it last. I guess 2 days!! Until the all wake up and realise what they have done.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:23am
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John 52 wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 9:45am:
Thanks for taking time to reply ,as many countries are beginning to ease restrictions on travel ,this appears to me to be another example of something that has not been thought out properly ,its a case of better late than never .I'm sure you will agree that the amount of people willing to t...
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...ravel when it's possible will be very little under these restrictions ,so I can see airlines going bust ,travel companies going bust that leads to redundancies ,they have been trialling heat detection at Heathrow to tell whether people have the virus ,how reliable this is ,I cant say ,but it shows that organisations are trialling methods to try and get planes flying again
You sound a bit doom and gloom, try lightning up a litt
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:40am
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It's hard to be positive when you look at the government in UK ,their performance has been abysmal ,their decisions are impacting on peoples lives ,maybe you can let me know where I can buy a pair of the rose coloured glasses you view things through
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:07pm
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Web Designer Guy wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 9:37am:
Because there is no instant test. Plus, and I may be wrong on this, but I believe this is the case, that you can still be a carrier of the virus but test negative. But mostly, because there isn't an instant test. Even if there was, how would it work?
Again, I'm not 100% on this, but the average Easyjet plane has 180 seats. Heathrow has about 1800 planes a day landing. Let's knock that number right back to 300 a day on average per airport. That's 54,000 people a day to be tested in airports. Can you even begin to imagine the infrastructure nee...
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...ded for such an undertaking, not to mention the delays it would cause?
It's neither feasible or even possible to test people coming in.
Again, I've figures to hand, but the percentage of "business" that requires free-flowing international travel to operate I would guess is tiny, far less than 1% I'd suggest. So, the quarantine restrictions will have a minimal effect on business in general, and people getting back, and so the economy.
My usual caveat: I'm not supporting the decision, or the government, or anything, just trying to give you an answer, but that may well be wrong.
Hi Web Designer Guy. Very Interesting. If the Airlines dont want to go Bankrupt and the Travel industry, they must combat the spread with masks, introduce tests, I hear there is a 20 minute test also Temperature test, it would also Help if ALL Countries do what S. Korea, Gemany and NZ does and that's Test, Trace and Isolate, this will minimise Covid Travellers
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:29pm
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Web Designer Guy wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 10:05am:
I'm sure you will agree that the amount of people willing to travel when it's possible will be very little under these restrictions
I think that's the general idea. I'd say the new measures are there to put people off casual travel, and I suspect it will do just that.
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,so I can see airlines going bust ,travel companies going bust that leads to redundancies
Very likely too. Travel companies for sure, but as much to do with the fact that the traditional travel agent has been in decline for ten years and this was the final nail etc. As for the airlines... The owners of many of them are often fabulously wealthy, they have taken huge sums of money out of their airline businesses over the years and now refuse to put some back in to keep them afloat. So ya, many will go pop, and jobs will be lost, but that's just a fact of coronavirus. THOUSANDS of businesses will disappear in the next six months and millions will lose their jobs.
If policy was made to suit certain business sectors, where does it stop? Let people travel freely to protect the airlines? Let the bars open to protect the drinks sector? Etc.
The Spanish Flu pandemic didn't do much harm in the first wave, mostly because there wasn't that much movement of people. Once the war ended there was a mass movement of people which caused the 2nd wave, and this 2nd wave did the damage in terms of human life.
It's fair to say far more strict travel restrictions should have been put in place much sooner in the UK, but better late than never. Perhaps.
yes, and although i dont use travel agents ,but you have to feel for Hayes travel who just recently took over Thomas cook,them poor sods must have thought the world has caved in with all this going on.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:29pm
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Dlrsantapola wrote on Sat May 23, 2020 9:49am:
Look on the bright side we can all go to southend beach instead ( if there's any room left ) 😁
I’ll send you a photo of your beach spot here! ;)
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:51pm
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Will be there july 🤞🤞🤞
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