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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:39pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:39pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:15pm:

Hi John,

Cummings has dropped another bomb, aimed at Hancock, 20 minutes before today's PMQ - publishing texts supposedly between Cummings and BoJo that are very much less than flattering of Hancock's abilities.  Leave them to their own devices long enough and they may all implode 🙄

Kind regards, 

Kim

"and they may all implode".

This lot led by Johnson have no shame whatsoever, but, there is always hope.

Davee57

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:19pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:19pm

PeteinAberdare wrote on Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:39pm:

"and they may all implode".

This lot led by Johnson have no shame whatsoever, but, there is always hope.

Always hope , because remember..

Davee57

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:20pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:20pm

Davee57 wrote on Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:19pm:

Always hope , because remember..

Be nice to those you meet on the way up because you’ll meet them again on the way down.

Isn’t that right Dominic? 

ChrisandDee

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:32am

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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:32am

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:35pm:

Hi John 52,

The UK Government has been taken to court by the Good Law Project, a not-for-profit, crowd-funded charity, in order to get anywhere close to holding BoJo and his clowns to account for wasting taxpayers´ money - and they won!  Those taxpayers voted BoJo in for another term of office and many...

... appear happy to forgive this Government anything, because of the success of the vaccination programme, while giving little or no thought to the frontline health workers who struggled without appropriate and sufficient PPE because of the Government´s cronyism.  How can we expect Government Select Committees to rigorously investigate this unlawful behaviour, while they continue to waste more public money defending further law suits?

I´ve been supporting the Good Law Project for some time - emails that I received from them on Wednesday and yesterday give you some idea of what is having to be done in the charitable sector because the Government´s own procedures are not rigorous.  I hope you find their work of interest.

Kind regards,

Kim

Good Law Project

Dear Kim,

Michael Gove broke the law by giving a contract to a communications agency run by long time associates of him and Dominic Cummings, the High Court has decided.

The Court found that the decision to award the £560,000 contract to Public First was tainted by “apparent bias” and was unlawful. The Court found that Gove’s:

“failure to consider any other research agency… would lead a fair minded and informed observer to conclude that there was a real possibility, or a real danger, that the decision maker was biased” (paragraph 168).

Michael Gove had claimed that the work was such that only Public First could carry it out. However, the High Court rejected that version of events. The simple truth, it held, was that the Cabinet Office didn’t even consider whether anyone else should have the contract.

The decision vindicates Good Law Project’s long-running characterisation of pandemic procurement as “institutionalised cronyism”.

Emails released in the case also showed that both Michael Gove and Number 10 were keen that Public First (and Hanbury) should win no-tender polling contracts. Good Law Project’s judicial review of the decision to award a contract to Hanbury will be heard on 26 July.

The decision is the second in our long slate of crowdfunded procurement judicial reviews – and we have succeeded in both. Two Cabinet Ministers – Michael Gove and Matt Hancock – have now been found to have broken the law.

Following the first decision, Good Law Project wrote to Matt Hancock making proposals to improve procurement and get better value for money for taxpayers. We offered, if that invitation was accepted, to drop our further procurement challenges to save public money. Mr Hancock did not respond. Since that letter, huge further sums in public money have been wasted in fruitless defence of their unlawful conduct.

Good Law Project repeats its invitation to the Government to learn lessons – and to stop wasting more public money staving off political embarrassment.

Good Law Project is grateful to its legal team of Jason Coppel QC and Patrick Halliday of 11KBW Chambers, instructed by Rook Irwin Sweeney.  And of course to the tens of thousands of people whose financial contributions make litigation like this possible.

We are the arrow but you draw the bow.

Thank you,

Jo Maugham
Director of Good Law Project

9 June 2021

Good Law Project


Dear Kim,

Yesterday’s High Court judgment that Michael Gove broke the law by handing a contract to his associates is vindication of what we have been saying for months: there is institutionalised cronyism at the heart of Government.

Lots of you have quite rightly got in touch to ask: what are the consequences? What happens now?

There will be real world impact. We know from people who work in Government that Good Law Project’s legal cases have caused those in power to think twice before they break the rules again. It shouldn’t take a tiny not-for-profit, crowdfunded by tens of thousands of people, to act as a watchdog against Government cronyism and law-breaking. But those in power have learned we’re watching and that we’re not afraid to act. 

In terms of criminality, that was not alleged in this case. But we know that in the case of PPE procurement, Government’s own Counter Fraud Function has assessed a high risk of fraud. We have uncovered a case that we believe the Serious Fraud Office should investigate and we will make a referral to them. As always, we will keep you updated.

For the Ministers involved, breaking the law should be a resigning matter or a sackable offence. But we know that Michael Gove or Matt Hancock won’t go and the two High Court rulings won’t force them to. That’s a huge problem for all of us who believe in standards in public life and the rule of law.

So whilst the law is an important check on Government’s misuse of power, it can’t be the only one. In order to truly turn the tide on this culture of impunity, we need to be more ambitious. We need to reach more of the public with our work, we need to be on the front page of every paper, we need to be speaking with our friends and families about what is happening at the heart of Government. Ultimately, it’s about building more power.

It’s no easy task. But we’ve already shown what thousands of people can do when we’re all pulling together in the right direction.  On that note, I wanted to share a personal thank you.  This High Court victory is only possible thanks to you.  Thank you,

Jo Maugham
Director of Good Law Project

10 June 2021

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Hi Kim,

i found your post really interesting. I'm not political at all; don't like watching the news, especially listening to the politicians NOT answering the questions they are asked.

I did n't even know this crowd funded charity existed but thank goodness they do. I hope they get better exposure.

Also appreciate your helpful posts on various concerns us Brits face here in Spain.

 

Balmer9

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:14am

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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:14am

Bizarre how people on here less than a year ago wanted Cummings hung drawn and quartered for allegedly lying (ignoring all the public funded MPs who had breached the rules (Ali, Kinnock etc)), and now hold a government aide up as some sort of icon, who they now believe, seems they try to make circumstances fit their left wing ideology....I prefer to find the middle ground and know if you keep a snake you will occasionally get bitten.  

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Kimmy11

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:01am

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ChrisandDee wrote on Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:32am:

Hi Kim,

i found your post really interesting. I'm not political at all; don't like watching the news, especially listening to the politicians NOT answering the questions they are asked.

I did n't even know this crowd funded charity existed but thank goodness they do. I hope they get better exposure.

Also appreciate your helpful posts on various concerns us Brits face here in Spain.

 

Hi ChrisandDee,

I can't keep count of the number of times I shout at politicians on the TV,

"Answer the bl👀dy question!" 😄

As for the work done by organisations like The Good Law Project, 38 Degrees and others, I share it on social media.  It occurred to me yesterday how important that is when politicians are let off the hook so easily by mainstream media - GLP's successful court case against Michael Gove had  a one-question mention when he was being interviewed on Sky News yesterday morning 😔

Kind regards, 

Kim

John 52

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:03pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:03pm

Balmer9 wrote on Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:14am:

Bizarre how people on here less than a year ago wanted Cummings hung drawn and quartered for allegedly lying (ignoring all the public funded MPs who had breached the rules (Ali, Kinnock etc)), and now hold a government aide up as some sort of icon, who they now believe, seems they try to make cir...

...cumstances fit their left wing ideology....I prefer to find the middle ground and know if you keep a snake you will occasionally get bitten.  

I wouldn't say Dominic Cummings is any.icon ,the fact that he was privy to what went on in Downing street, is very welcome ,as far as I'm concerned  ,as this government have never admitted  to any errors  they have made in the last 16months ,its quite clear to anybody who cares to open their eyes and ears that they have made plenty of errors  ,thats not to say errors would not have been made by another team ,but the fact that this government  is hell bent on manipulating figures and facts for their own benefit .the fact that Cummings is no longer part of this government can only be a good thing for exposing this governments failings ,poacher turned gamekeeper 

Bex

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:10pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:10pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:01am:

Hi ChrisandDee,

I can't keep count of the number of times I shout at politicians on the TV,

"Answer the bl👀dy question!" 😄

As for the work done by organisations like The Good Law Project, 38 Degrees and others, I share it on social media.  It occurred to me yesterday how important that is when politicians are let off the hook so easily by mainstream media - GLP's successful court case against Michael Gove had  a one-question mention when he was being interviewed on Sky News yesterday morning 😔

Kind regards, 

Kim

Hi Kim. I support GLP too and feel I have to share on social media due to the disgraceful lack of mainstream media coverage. Corruption and a total lack of any moral values are rife within our political system and I find it extremely worrying. Where are the police in all of this I wonder, or are the politicians protected regardless of what they do, by their own laws?

I regularly write to my local MP (Nick Fletcher - Conservative) about these and other things and he infuriates me, dodging with his party line answers and ignoring the glaringly obvious truths that he refuses to even acknowledge.  

I’ve stopped shouting at the TV  - it hurts my throat🤗  


Enjoy your day everyone  It’s easy to lose sight of the beauty that surrounds us at times  🌺🌸💕

Paul

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:31pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:31pm

Balmer9 wrote on Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:14am:

Bizarre how people on here less than a year ago wanted Cummings hung drawn and quartered for allegedly lying (ignoring all the public funded MPs who had breached the rules (Ali, Kinnock etc)), and now hold a government aide up as some sort of icon, who they now believe, seems they try to make cir...

...cumstances fit their left wing ideology....I prefer to find the middle ground and know if you keep a snake you will occasionally get bitten.  

Cummings is a weasle and his skillset includes manipulation and propaganda and it's why Johnson appointed him in the first place, neither of them are trustworthy, they're both extreme right wing but their shared values weren't enough to keep the partnership together once Carrie got involved. The things he told the select committee were alarming and at any other time would have led to resignations but not in this government, there are no standards. Johnson's first act as leader was to remove all the pro-eu MPs including decent centralists like Rory Stewart and Ken Clarke, there are no dissenting voices in govt and the worrying thing is they have mopped up the brexit voters in deprived communities and that added to their already strong base of wealthy voters will keep them in power for the foreseable. All evidence of incompetence will be met with a shrug of the shoulders and supportive headlines in the Sun and The Express, we spent £37 billion on a track and trace system that didn't work, we handed out contracts worth billions to companies with tory connections without any competetive tendering process. None of this affects the tories in the polls so even though Cummings provides evidence of lies and incompetence it won't make any difference whatsoever.

Paul

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:44pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:44pm

John 52 wrote on Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:03pm:

They say you learn something new every day, new nothing about the deficiencies of Dawn Butler ,I know she complained about police harassment when she was stopped in car ,think it was Brixton but maybe got that wrong ,have heard her talk in past and got impression she new what she was talking abou...

...t ,always like that in a politician but regards her honesty cant comment as dont know her personally ,but with amount of lies that have been told by Tory government ministers ,I'm surprised theres not a multitude of pinocchio clones going about

Her second home happened to be in her constituency rather than closer to parliament, it was an error and I'm not defending it but it's nowhere near the Robert Jenrick scale.

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