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Temperatures

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 8:50pm
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Ray1951

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I just read an entry in the Telegraph and need to comment re the temperatures in Cafe and Bars etc in Spain.

This paper says that Brits will experience uncomfort in bars and restaurants due to the new legislation.  Having been an AC engineer for over 50 years I can say this is wrong 27deg C when the external temp is between 32 and 40 C will be quite comfortable as the humidity reduction makes it so.

So Brits visiting our great area do not listen and enjoy our restaurants, bars and entertainment. God Bless 

GrahamLynn

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:08pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:08pm

I think we  also managed last year, when the use of aircon and heating was completely banned  in bars/restaurants due to covid regulations 

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:15pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:15pm

One can really get fed up by the always alarmistic news crid out in the media. I live for the last 42 years in Murcia enjoying a extremely mild climate needing absolutely no heating during the the Winter months. Obviously it can beome uncomfortable between mid Juli to early September, and aircon is a must between 3 and 7pm. I care a heck about temperatures in Cafeterias and wherever, who will check that? Take it easy and don't believe all that stuff ion the papers. The sun is shining and booze is cheap, the best things in life are free.

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:18pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:18pm

Hey Ray, you might be correct in your own mind, but it’s nice to have a choice !. Or should I say would be nice to have a choice!. It would not be my immediate choice to be inside a bar at 27 degrees, irrespective of the external temperature. I have worked in the Middle East, Far East, Latin America and Europe, and they all have differing humidity levels. There is nothing better than walking into a freezing cold establishment when the outside temp is 30 to 40 degrees. Why do you think they don’t have their temperatures set at 27 degrees, it’s because everyone will be inside the bar next door where it is Cold. Unfortunately, there doesn’t appear to be any choice according to this new ruling. We all have two choices, and personally I will live with that ultimatum,  but don’t say it will be comfortable, it won’t be for a lot of people. 

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:24pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:24pm

I read the same article yesterday and was horrified!  My aircon was set at 19* so decided to put it to the test! I upped it to 27* and it was perfectly fine. Like the rest of you, I’m sick and fed up with all these alarmist news reports 

I appreciate your post. Thank you. I feel doubly content having read your comments. Going home to good old (NI) on Wednesday  where I won’t be looking like a wet rag doll ! However, we’ll be back at the end of September and hopefully it’ll be a little bit cooler then.  Cheers. 

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Hew

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:37pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:37pm

Grannyrose wrote on Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:24pm:

I read the same article yesterday and was horrified!  My aircon was set at 19* so decided to put it to the test! I upped it to 27* and it was perfectly fine. Like the rest of you, I’m sick and fed up with all these alarmist news reports 

I appreciate your post. Thank you. I feel doubly content having read your comments. Going home to good old (NI) on Wednesday  where I won’t be looking like a wet rag doll ! However, we’ll be back at the end of September and hopefully it’ll be a little bit cooler then.  Cheers.&nbs...

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That’s because you need a new thermostat ! It will be nice In NI next week, but if you had air con in NI you would be allowed to set it at whatever temperature suited you, not what the Government told you to set it at. And that is a fact !. Enjoy NI, cheers. 

Ray1951

Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 12:11am

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 12:11am

Hew wrote on Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:18pm:

Hey Ray, you might be correct in your own mind, but it’s nice to have a choice !. Or should I say would be nice to have a choice!. It would not be my immediate choice to be inside a bar at 27 degrees, irrespective of the external temperature. I have worked in the Middle East, Far East, Latin Am...

...erica and Europe, and they all have differing humidity levels. There is nothing better than walking into a freezing cold establishment when the outside temp is 30 to 40 degrees. Why do you think they don’t have their temperatures set at 27 degrees, it’s because everyone will be inside the bar next door where it is Cold. Unfortunately, there doesn’t appear to be any choice according to this new ruling. We all have two choices, and personally I will live with that ultimatum,  but don’t say it will be comfortable, it won’t be for a lot of people. 

I understand, however ALL establishments will need to comply, I have lived and worked like you in the Caribbean and Saudi and can say that 21 or below is too cold when the ambient to over 30 deg

So you have a choice understand the logic of someone with over 50 years experience or keep going on about stuff that’s not right

R

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 1:59am

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 1:59am

Well inside my place it is on average 33'C. Having the aircon at 27'C does nothing and it has to be set to about 20 to make it comfortable. 25/26/27/28 will do absolutely nothing. If they're that bothered about saving energy, as their stated reason is, build another power station!

Grannyrose

Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:43am

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:43am

I often look at many of the houses close by here in Spain who don’t appear to have any aircon units and realise that the Spanish people are acclimatised but most of us aren’t. I am not exaggerating when I describe myself as a soaking, wet mess during the day if not at the beach. It’s hell. I was walking over to a restaurant a few years ago and a tiny Spanish lady was also walking along. My lovely daughter started to chat with her and I joined in. The word she used to describe the heat remains in my memory vividly.  TORTUROUS.  SAME Word IN HER LANGUAGE!   What a description!   Nobody really likes this intense heat constantly.   I’m fine indoors and on the beach but outside ?   Not a pretty sight   Cheers everyone. 

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 11:52am

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 11:52am

Ray1951 wrote on Sun Aug 7, 2022 8:50pm:

I just read an entry in the Telegraph and need to comment re the temperatures in Cafe and Bars etc in Spain.

This paper says that Brits will experience uncomfort in bars and restaurants due to the new legislation.  Having been an AC engineer for over 50 years I can say this is wrong 27deg C when the external temp is between 32 and 40 C will be quite comfortable as the humidity reduction makes it so...

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So Brits visiting our great area do not listen and enjoy our restaurants, bars and entertainment. God Bless 

Just to add.....

I have a relatively new aircon system and set the temperature to 26° for overnight sleep, which makes my apartment 'cool'.

I realise everyone has different physical attributes but it seems to me that if people need to set at 20° to feel cool there's probably something wrong with their system. (You can maintain your splitter unit by removing the plastic filters and cleaning the dust off with warm water)

I would agree with you at 33-40° external, 27° will definitely feel cool inside bars.

But the English press is full of anti EU stories at the moment and call me a conspiracy theorist but it seems like a government directive to try and prop up a failing economy by getting as many people as possible to holiday in the UK.

Steve

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