It's fine, Boris was just on the news saying they have a plan, and it'll be put in place by the end of the month. So it's all good. I mean, how bad can things get in the next 28 days?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCdRFMp8Xwo
Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2020 4:24pm
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It's fine, Boris was just on the news saying they have a plan, and it'll be put in place by the end of the month. So it's all good. I mean, how bad can things get in the next 28 days?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCdRFMp8Xwo
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 10:41am
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That's quite a jump in numbers!
Looking at the stats, per capita Spain is now pretty high on the list of EU countries with infections.
My wife was in Alicante over the weekend, might have to lock her in a room on her own.
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 10:46am
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Hmm, update on La Moncloa website, as at 6pm yesterday evening, was 114 of which 15 are in the Valencian region. Unfortunately, it's in a downloadable document, so I can't attach it here, but if there's been another 12 cases reported in Spain overnight, there's probably no point anyway, as the information is changing by the hour. It does seem to be breeding faster than rabbits!
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 8:18pm
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From what I can find to read this evening, it seems new infections in the last 12hrs have dropped right off, so you've got to assume the sudden jump in recorded infections yesterday is more to do with the authorities starting to wake up to CV than the number of those actually infected going up really fast. Small comforts I guess.
Flight prices on Easyjet have come right down, and BA & Ryanair have massively cut the number of flights operating in the coming months as they say demand has dropped right off. You have to feel sorry for those in Spain, and other countries, who rely on good Summer tourism for their business. It might not be there this year.
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:38pm
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If the photo in today's El País is anything to go by, the Spanish came out in their droves for the start of Valencia's Fallas celebrations on Sunday:
https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-03-02/coronavirus-cases-continue-to-climb-in-spain.html
I've got another 6 days before I need to decide whether to cancel our hotel booking and still get a full refund, so I'm watching that space. But I don't think I really expected a little thing like a 'flu epidemic to stop the Spanish partying.....! ;o)
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Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2020 8:45am
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Web Designer Guy wrote on Tue Mar 3, 2020 8:18pm:
From what I can find to read this evening, it seems new infections in the last 12hrs have dropped right off, so you've got to assume the sudden jump in recorded infections yesterday is more to do with the authorities starting to wake up to CV than the number of those actually infected going up re...
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...ally fast. Small comforts I guess.
Flight prices on Easyjet have come right down, and BA & Ryanair have massively cut the number of flights operating in the coming months as they say demand has dropped right off. You have to feel sorry for those in Spain, and other countries, who rely on good Summer tourism for their business. It might not be there this year.
Easter could be disappointing for Hotels and Restaurants, Easter normally "kicks" off the season and is not that far off.
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2020 9:13am
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Oh ya, forgot about Easter. Flight prices this morning shot back up again, no idea if that means anything, suspect not. Airlines are smart, but I do get the impression their booking systems are not as smart as they like to think.
I didn't make the Feb trip over but my wife was over to Alicante weekend passed, we would normally be over again in April but doing Turkey for a change. No Spain flights booked for the remainder of the year as yet because the prices were crazy high when they launched (we normally block book seats when flights are released), so we might not be getting over much this year.
On the topic of CV, I see a lot reporting Spain's first death, but failing to report that it was over a month ago after returning from a trip to Nepal. At the time it wasn't connected to CV, now it is. Just the usual selective/low-quality tabloid journolism.
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2020 10:17am
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For reference - Airlines run a HEPA filter system which is same as used in hospital theatres - this replaced the air fully cleaned every 3-4 minutes. Or so they say. Also mentions of more deep cleaning - but we all know between short flights, cleaning, is picking up the rubbish.
I think the true figures have yet to establish themselves, as others pointed out - there's no 100% on this one, no one's exactly sure on the incubation period, many might already be walking around with this, unaware - and anyone with a weaker immune system 60+ or underlying issues / respiratory, need to wash their hands a few times more.
The answer is they don't have one yet.
1 year+ to a vaccine they can use. We saw the stock markets tank to the worst state since 2008 last week (moved back up a bit). Governments try to re-assure to avoid panic, which affects all markets.
People are easily spooked & above all else, we'll be told whatever we need to be told, in order for us to not start looting and stealing each others canned food. IE we are not told everything - especially as this is still 'new'.
We need to worry if the 3.7 million displaced mainly Syrians, with over a million sitting on Greece's border trying to break through to the EU - they are in terrible conditions & if it spreads within that community & there becomes a large movement of people & potentially many breaking through the borders, then this has the possibility to spread rapidly. We should be worrying why 3.7 million are homeless which we are turning a blind eye to when some gas bombing facist is killing his own people but that's a different conversation.
General recommendations of 'don't shake hands or greeting kiss' & handwashing are about as much as we can do - along with the avoiding large crowds and perhaps confined areas with many people. They say don't touch you face - but we do 1000 odd times a day, so that won't be too easy (best avoid eyes / mouth).
Cheap surgical masks are not up to the task of multiple uses, virus droplets can go into the eyes and ears - so masks aren't fully effective.
I've noticed my cousins Chirpody surgical masks have climbed from 0.25c to €5.00, anything with anti-germ or wash sold out all local supermarkets - people starting to panic. Don't, there's little we can do other than 'the basics' & wait.
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2020 1:12pm
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Today, 4th March, the newspaper Informacion reports that there are currently 19 cases in the Valencian Community.
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2020 5:00pm
Jimmyone wrote on Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:13am:
Just as a matter of information.In 1969 there aws a worldwide flu epidemic, where over 1,000,000 people were reported to have died.
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back in those days news didn't travel very fast, and people got the news from newspapers, and the telly, sometimes days later than it actually happened.
no one panicked, they just got on with it.
, took some Beechams powders or an orange, and got on with things
Today if someone sneezes in Outer Mongolia, its on the internet in 2 minutes....PANIC ENSUES, and everone heads for the hills
Bloomin internet !!!
Totally agree! Newspapers, T.V. and social media seem to "hype" it up. It's been said that more people for of influenza every year! Just get on with it.
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