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Peter3473

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:53pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:53pm

Golandrina wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:34pm:

At the beginning of July it was just 3 days!

Well, on my first attempt to collect my TIE, I was told to come back the next day, there was a couple there that day to and they were told to come back in another 2 weeks! So that took them to 5 weeks in total. 

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:01pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:01pm

Golandrina wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:34pm:

Taken from the N332 Facebook page (this page and their website is run in collaboration with officers of the Guardia Civil for English speaking people):

RESIDENCY INFORMATION:- We know that there are still many rumours around that green residency certificates must be exchanged for the TIE by 31 December. Please be assured that this is not the case. While the Spanish Government has highlighted that there may be some advantages to having t...

...he TIE – it is more durable, contains biometric data and may speed up administrative processes and border crossing – they make it clear that the green certificate remains valid evidence of your residency status and rights under the Withdrawal Agreement, even after the end of the Transition Period. See their Q&A document for more detail. - You may be aware that some UK Nationals have been issued with TIEs with incorrect wording. We continue to work with the Spanish authorities on this issue. The Spanish have emphasised that these cards remain valid documents, however, we appreciate the desire of UK nationals to obtain a card with the correct wording and are awaiting further information from the Spanish authorities on the process for doing this.- We know that it is still difficult to get residency appointments in many areas. Please encourage anyone who is struggling to obtain an appointment to make sure they have all the documentation necessary for their application and to prove that they are legally living in Spain by the end of this year.- We have published a series of videos on residency on our Brits in Spain Facebook channel: an FAQ video, a video specifically for first time applicants and a third on exchanging the green certificate for a TIE. In addition, we have updated our page on gov.uk on registering as a resident in Spain.- If people are particularly struggling with the residency process as first-time applications, please do signpost them to the organisations that have received funding from the UK Nationals Support Fund to assist them. The level of support may vary depending on where in Spain you are, but their helplines are open to people from across the country. You can find their details here.

I have a TIE which I received in July with the wrong wording, which I have been told is legal, and they had thousands  printed in erro.   Can somebody let me know what is the correct wording because I am a “ family member of a European Citizen”

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:36pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:36pm

Golandrina wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:34pm:

Taken from the N332 Facebook page (this page and their website is run in collaboration with officers of the Guardia Civil for English speaking people):

RESIDENCY INFORMATION:- We know that there are still many rumours around that green residency certificates must be exchanged for the TIE by 31 December. Please be assured that this is not the case. While the Spanish Government has highlighted that there may be some advantages to having t...

...he TIE – it is more durable, contains biometric data and may speed up administrative processes and border crossing – they make it clear that the green certificate remains valid evidence of your residency status and rights under the Withdrawal Agreement, even after the end of the Transition Period. See their Q&A document for more detail. - You may be aware that some UK Nationals have been issued with TIEs with incorrect wording. We continue to work with the Spanish authorities on this issue. The Spanish have emphasised that these cards remain valid documents, however, we appreciate the desire of UK nationals to obtain a card with the correct wording and are awaiting further information from the Spanish authorities on the process for doing this.- We know that it is still difficult to get residency appointments in many areas. Please encourage anyone who is struggling to obtain an appointment to make sure they have all the documentation necessary for their application and to prove that they are legally living in Spain by the end of this year.- We have published a series of videos on residency on our Brits in Spain Facebook channel: an FAQ video, a video specifically for first time applicants and a third on exchanging the green certificate for a TIE. In addition, we have updated our page on gov.uk on registering as a resident in Spain.- If people are particularly struggling with the residency process as first-time applications, please do signpost them to the organisations that have received funding from the UK Nationals Support Fund to assist them. The level of support may vary depending on where in Spain you are, but their helplines are open to people from across the country. You can find their details here.

Please be careful if your Abagado advises you have to do it before 31 december.

This is incorrect information.  They advised 1 visit 150 euros each, then 40/50 euros for a second visit.

We are pensioners, they must think we have money to burn.

We have our residencia since 2007,  You have to do it some time, but December 2020 is for non residents living here.

DonRod

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47am

tebo53 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:55pm:

Having an NIE does not give you any rights whatsoever to travel. 

An NIE is only a number that anyone in the world can apply for. 

An NIE is similar to the UK National insurance number and that is all it is.

Steve 

No , I think you will find that ,

you either have to own a property or have a minimum of one year lease  In Spain or  Spanish territories to get an NIE  number . 

Golandrina

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40am

DonRod wrote on Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47am:

No , I think you will find that ,

you either have to own a property or have a minimum of one year lease  In Spain or  Spanish territories to get an NIE  number . 

Your information is incorrect.   The NIE is, as mentioned above, similar to the NI number in the U.K. and is with you for life.   It is ofteneeded for many things as national identification, buying things such as a car, for tax purposes, obtaining padron, electricity, water, bank account, etc.

It is usually the first thing that should be obtained.

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Kelvin1960

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:42am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:42am

DonRod wrote on Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47am:

No , I think you will find that ,

you either have to own a property or have a minimum of one year lease  In Spain or  Spanish territories to get an NIE  number . 

This is incorrect. 

Tebo53 and Golandrina are correct.

A NIE is an ID number. Anyone can request one. 

NIE must not be confused with Residencia or TIE, which confer rights of long-term residency.

To obtain Residencia (or now TIE), you must own a home in Spain (or have a legal lease), and meet financial and healthcare requirements. 

elinspain

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:12am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:12am

Hello

Correct Golandrina,

I used mine for obtaining/renewing my free bus pass for Torrevieja area, then I use the bus pass - with photo & NIE when I collect parcels from couriers/ postman  at the gate, it is invaluable as I.D.

Cheers 

Elinspain

sheilaheggarty

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:12am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:12am

elinspain wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:48pm:

Hello

Yes Tessa to answer the 2nd part of your post - from Jan 1st 2021, as long as you do not exceed 90days max. here you will be ok....then 90 days back in UK & you can come back to Spain.... for up to  another 90 days.

Cheers

Elinspain

You can stay in Spain for up to 90 days in any rolling 180 , including using them all in one go. You then need to leave for 90 days . However it’s a rolling 180 days. If you come back after e.g after 95 days you can only stay 5 days in Spain ,or anywhere in the EU . If you come back after being out of the EU for 100 days , ten days are allowed . To come back to Spain with the intention of staying for another 90 days , however,  you need to be out of Spain or anywhere in the EU for 180 days. Any time spent in the EU ,a weekend in Paris or a holiday in Italy etc uses up those permitted 180 days .
To give an example ....... On the day you intend to arrive, you need to look back at the previous 180 days and count the days you have spent in the EU, take that away from 180 and that gives you the days allowed .
If you have been out of Spain for 90 days ,you have to look back at the previous 180. So if you have spent 80 days at the beginning of the period , your allowance only permits 10 days even though you have been out of Spain for 90 days .
Unfortunately It’s not as straight forward as it seems .☹️ 

Kevman

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:34am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:34am

Every residencia card or certificate has an expiry date on it, and you have to renew before it expires! Easy peasy 😉

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:39am

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:39am

Kevman wrote on Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:34am:

Every residencia card or certificate has an expiry date on it, and you have to renew before it expires! Easy peasy 😉

Incorrect information. My Residencia card does not have an expiry date on it. It does have the date of issue, but definitely no expiry date.

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