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aitchc1401

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18am

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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18am

Hew wrote on Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:09pm:

 Hi Kimmy, all I was saying is that Spain should soon be in a situation where they can (move forward) and do the same as the UK. Me, I still wear a mask and will continue to do so, but only when I personally feel it’s necessary. But the UK has made the correct decision as far as removing c...

...ertain regulations are concerned, especially with regard to travel.  We can’t go on for ever hiding in corners and wearing masks. Until possibly another variant emerges, right now we have to get back to normal. Then everyone would have to review the situation accordingly if a serious variant emerged. To be honest in the UK as far as the average person is concerned Covid is over and gone, and there are more serious concerns to be addressed world wide as apposed to Covid. I have gone through all the lockdowns, had three vaccinations, plus Covid, and now feel that via the UK’s vaccination strategy it is now safe to go outside and enjoy what’s left of my life. Why should anyone even Ask  if masks are compulsory in Spain unless they don’t want to wear one.

Hi Hew,

     I think a lot of people have the same view as yourself. Just a couple of thoughts on the value of masks: 

 here the UK Scotland has the highest number of infections, yet unlike England they still require masks to be worn in many situations and they have other covid restrictions in place that have been relaxed in England. What does that tell you about the value of  wearing masks?

  I was in Spain last week, in the main there was no need to wear masks outside, just indoors. If masks are required indoors for protection in enclosed spaces how do they protect you when they are removed in restaurants, bars and other social venues? 

 Germany, seen as one of the better performing countries with regards to covid infections and deaths, yesterday had 235,000 new infections and 287 deaths, there have nearly 4 million people with covid countrywide. Their mask wearing policy is similar to Spain.

Mask wearing did not stop Omincron spreading and will not stop the latest variant spreading. If people feel safer wearing masks that is fine. If the law says you must wear masks then it should be obeyed.

 Thankfully the vaccines and new covid treatments are preventing deaths, in the UK the treatment of covid is as good as anywhere in the world now and, in my view, that is allowing us to move towards a normal lifestyle. 

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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:10am

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Fairy108 wrote on Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:36am:

Hello Hew I am one of the average people you speak of and I’m definitely still wearing a mask as are most of my friends ,I wear gloves to the shops and wash when I get home .Needless to say thanks to our inept Pirme-minister the numbers are rising again because he has taken all restrictions off...

... and won’t listen to the experts .So I would say wear them as long as you can because you / we are not out of the woods yet I believe .I don’t mean any offence at all just pointing out  a lot of us are still wearing masks and protecting ourselves .Keep safe .

Hi Fairy108,

I agree.  When you look at how aerosol emissions spread coronavirus, it's easy to understand how masks protect us.  However, their efficacy is severely impacted by those who refuse to wear them and those who don't wear them properly, which is why individual country infection rates is not an accurate measure of their efficacy.  The best that we can do, along with other precautions such as sanitising our hands, is to wear an FFP2 mask which, unlike FFP1s, protects ourselves as well as others.

Stay safe,

Kim

Paul

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:22am

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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:22am

Mask wearing isn't even an issue as far as I'm concerned, it's no trouble to just slip one on, IMO the UK have been a bit blase about restrictions and have the highest death toll in Europe, we also have rising infections, it's true that Scotland currently has a higher infection rate than England but these things are constantly changing. I'm back in England now and mask wearing is about 50/50 on buses and in shops, however nearly everyone knows someone with covid now and the illnesses vary from cold like symptems to more serious illnesses, we're still losing around 800 people a week.

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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53pm

Paul wrote on Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:22am:

Mask wearing isn't even an issue as far as I'm concerned, it's no trouble to just slip one on, IMO the UK have been a bit blase about restrictions and have the highest death toll in Europe, we also have rising infections, it's true that Scotland currently has a higher infection rate than England ...

...but these things are constantly changing. I'm back in England now and mask wearing is about 50/50 on buses and in shops, however nearly everyone knows someone with covid now and the illnesses vary from cold like symptems to more serious illnesses, we're still losing around 800 people a week.

Hi Paul,

      I'm not saying that mask wearing is an issue, it is up to the laws and then individual to follow said laws. Mask wearing as you probably know is not compulsory on public transport or in shops in the England, hence the 50/50 percentage wearing them. Infection figures do vary, in my opinion I would say this is more due to new variants rather than mask wearing or not, otherwise how do you explain Scotland having higher infection rates than England?

 In Europe the UK ranks 22 in deaths per million of population at the moment, Spain rank 23rd and France 24th (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ ) 

As there is no standard for recording and reporting deaths it is difficult to say where the UK truely ranks, though perhaps looking at excess deaths might be a more accurate guide, I am sure this will happen soon. 

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patsyd

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:24pm

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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:24pm

Hew wrote on Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:20pm:

Don’t disagree in the least, but in the UK all travel entry restrictions end on 18 March whether vaccinated or not. That includes no longer having to fill in the passenger locator form. Right now you don’t even have to isolate if you prove positive for Covid. Mask wearing ! Up to the individu...

...al I suppose, meant to be compulsory in supermarkets and enclosed places, but not really being implemented. Be honest, we have to move forward. Europe will soon follow the UK with regard to restrictions I’m sure.

Do you know if the scrapping of locator form includes Scotland? We’re travelling from Alicante to Edinburgh on 26th march

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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:32pm

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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:32pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:10am:

Hi Fairy108,

I agree.  When you look at how aerosol emissions spread coronavirus, it's easy to understand how masks protect us.  However, their efficacy is severely impacted by those who refuse to wear them and those who don't wear them properly, which is why individual country infection rates is no...

...t an accurate measure of their efficacy.  The best that we can do, along with other precautions such as sanitising our hands, is to wear an FFP2 mask which, unlike FFP1s, protects ourselves as well as others.

Stay safe,

Kim

Hi Kim ,I agree with what you say but right through the really bad times of covid people were masks but not over their I mean honestly.In the end we can only do what we can to protect ourselves .Some people will never do the right thing ,I have health problems so I do what I can to protect my husband and myself .It’s not over cases are rising every day .I wish you well Kim and keep safe .🙏🏻🙏🏻😇😇

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:32am

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Can I just remind egeryone that there are at least 11 other Countries around the world who have also lifted all restrictions, not just the UK.  

There will always be some form of COVID variant floating around, just like the flu.

My wife and I caught COVID at the very early stages when it all came about. We were given antibiotics for 2 weeks and in the last 2 years have been fine.  We have not had the vaccinactions and have no intentions of doing so.  We went to the Spanish Market last Friday and despite the closeness of people there, no one was wearing a mask.  Please be mindful of all the scare mongering going on.  Its very easy for the Governments to play on peoples vulnerabilities and fears and scare people into doing what they want.  If you want to wear a mask - wear one.  If you dont - dont.  All the while we still have the option of The Freedom of Choice (until thats taken away!) then use it.  Someone elses reason and decision to wear a mask/get vaccinated doesnt necessarily have to be yours.  Lets get back to enjoying life instead of living in fear of 'what could be'.😁

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:42am

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:42am

patsyd wrote on Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:24pm:

Do you know if the scrapping of locator form includes Scotland? We’re travelling from Alicante to Edinburgh on 26th march

Yes the passenger locator form has been scrapped right across the U.K. 

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patsyd

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:57am

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:57am

GrahamLynn wrote on Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:42am:

Yes the passenger locator form has been scrapped right across the U.K. 

Lynn

Thankyou GrahamLynn, that’s kind of you to reply. Thanks again.

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:56am

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:56am

patsyd wrote on Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:24pm:

Do you know if the scrapping of locator form includes Scotland? We’re travelling from Alicante to Edinburgh on 26th march

Applies to all of the U.K Have a look at the gov, Scot site. It states quite clearly that locator forms are no longer required from 28 March 😀

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